[RightInEastLansing]

"Do you mean natural selection--mutations occur by chance and are selected based on advantage in the natural environment?"

His statement is very clear. "There are Darwinists who claim that the universe exists by random chance."

Do you not understand the clear meaning of his words? Do you refute this claim?

[edsheppa]

Do you not understand the clear meaning of his words?

I'm sure what's confusing everyone is that neither "Darwinism" nor evolutionary theory say anything about the universe existing by random chance. When faced with such nonsense, it's natural to try and elicit the intended meaning.

[DC Bound]

I don't know any Darwinists who cite random chance--they cite natural selection. The simple meaning of "There are Darwinists who claim that the universe exists by random chance." strikes me as odd. Darwinists don't usually meddle in astrophysics. This makes me think the author of that sentence probably meant "darwinists claim evolution of species is the result of random chance." This, I would support as partly accurate about Darwinist views. Chance results in a variety of mutations. The best are selected and passed on to future generations.

Long story short, I do not understand the clear meaning of his words. That's why I asked the question.