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To: NormB
Let's have a rational discussion on homosexuality in the Church!

Good luck with that.

For my part, I have no problem with gay priests and I think the Vatican is wrong in this decision. I'm an ex-Catholic.

I do think there is something wrong though if 25-50% of priests are gay, when only 10% of the general population is gay.

12 posted on 09/30/2005 11:30:46 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: conserv13

I imagine both percentages are highly exaggerated.


16 posted on 09/30/2005 11:33:56 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: conserv13

Actually the percentage of homosexuals (of both genders) in the general population is 2-3%. Not 10%.


26 posted on 09/30/2005 11:45:00 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: conserv13

1.75% of the population is gay. The 10% is disinformation from the fifties that continues to be cited by the gay community.


44 posted on 09/30/2005 11:59:43 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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To: conserv13
Gays congregate in places example Hollywood, artists, hair cutting boutiques, colage faculties, certain government jobs.

Its not hard to believe when I have seen this move going on in Eccumenical and Evangelical churches since the 1970's -- these are the same churches that marched against the vietnam war, and have been involved in leftist politics -- is it a surprise that they have adopted the left's "patron saints" as their priests?

46 posted on 09/30/2005 12:00:20 PM PDT by Rocketman
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To: conserv13

If you actually have swallowed the lying piece of propaganda that 10% of the population is homosexual (now admitted by its propounders to be a lie) you really should study up.

It's all here at this link, categorized for your reading pleasure:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~scripter/index


107 posted on 09/30/2005 1:22:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: conserv13

Celibacy is all about denial of the natural appetites, how can it serve celibacy to characterize its dimensions?


140 posted on 09/30/2005 3:48:50 PM PDT by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: conserv13
I do think there is something wrong though if 25-50% of priests are gay, when only 10% of the general population is gay.

I've yet to see proof that the numbers of homosexual priests are that high. I'd think, with as many places I've lived and parishes that I've attended that I'd have met a bunch of them by now, and I haven't. I'm sure that there are plenty of them, because of the liberal push of the Vocations Boards over the last 20 years or so, but not in those numbers.

145 posted on 09/30/2005 5:00:53 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: conserv13
For my part, I have no problem with gay priests and I think the Vatican is wrong in this decision. I'm an ex-Catholic. I do think there is something wrong though if 25-50% of priests are gay, when only 10% of the general population is gay.

What do percentages have to do with anything?

How about the fact that homosexuality is incompatible with Church and ALL Biblical teachings on sexual morality?

To have ANYBODY in a position of leadership who doesn't believe in the Church's teachings makes absolutely no sense at all. It is destructive to the Church.

153 posted on 09/30/2005 7:15:49 PM PDT by Jorge (Q)
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To: conserv13
I do think there is something wrong though if 25-50% of priests are gay, when only 10% of the general population is gay.


I have a problem with both numbers. First, I believe it was the homosexual community that came up with the 10% of the general population is homosexual. I suspect that that number is grossly inflated (to make it seem they are a larger group then they really are). Think about, blacks (and I am not comparing blacks with homosexual, only using the percentages as a comparison), represent about 12% of the population of the United States. Are we to believe that a similar number of people around us are homosexuals?

I suspect the number is more like 1-2% of the overall population.

Now on the first percentage, since it is a self selecting category, it could be that high (but again I suspect it is also inflated).

Since there are few flamboyant homosexuals (think street fair in San Francisco) most homosexuals pass for heterosexuals, and I have often wondered how many closet gays are lawyers and judges, and elected officials and have a conflict of interest .

Certainly the Psychiatric Board that changed homosexually from a sickness to normal had some homosexual influence, and the Judges that ruled in favor of homosexuals may have been gay themselves.

My point is that I do not believe homosexuals exist in the numbers represented, but they are in position of influence (certainly Hollywood, the media, the courts, and legislatures) within this nation. Not all gays are hair dressers.

The American people by and large are a tolerant group, but this constant in your face by the visible homosexual community is getting tiring. I wish they would all just shut up and leave the rest of us alone.

In the 10,000 years of human history that I am aware of, homosexuality has been shunned and punished (with a few notable exceptions). If homosexual behavior is normal human behavior I would have expected it to be welcomed and celebrated after 10,000 years of civilization, but it is not.

Currently homosexuals have managed to silent most criticism of them and their community, but by silencing those disagree with you is not the same as winning the argument. The resentment is repressed, and is only whispered between close friends and families, but does not go away.

This nation watched an epidemic sweep this nation, and the world, because the homosexual community fought the methods that would have stopped the spread of it. The HIV virus became the only virus to ever achieve civil rights to exist. It is only the grace of God that the HIV virus did not spread to the general population. The homosexuals should thank God for that as well, as the backlash against them for not allowing this disease to be fought when only a handful were infected would have been a disaster for their community.

As is, we now know HIV (with a few exceptions) is transmitted by either dirty needles, or anal sex. Don’t do either, and your chances of getting the disease is reduced to almost zero.

It is funny, but if I, a heterosexual male know this, why is HIV still a killer within the homosexual community. It has been what, 20 years now. The disease should have been exterminated years ago. Oh, I forgot for a moment, the homosexual community refused to allow the methods that would have contained and eventually stopped the spread of the disease.

This I believe is the golden age for homosexuals, I hope they enjoy it while it last. If history is any guide, it will not last for long. One thing liberals never seem to understand, when they rely on the courts to give them something the rest of the population is not in favor of it means the courts can take it away later.

237 posted on 10/02/2005 5:10:28 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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