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Bush selling out America
North County Times/The Californian ^ | Wednesday, Sept. 28, 2005 | Freeman Sawyer

Posted on 09/30/2005 5:07:37 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

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To: purpleland
HOWEVER, a president has term limitations, and career congressmen do not. This is a very significant difference

Agreed, but they can do so much more damage in those 4-8 years.

101 posted on 09/30/2005 9:59:14 AM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: A.Hun
instead of complaining about a wingnut wishlist not being fulfilled.

Do not try to marginalize the issue of the illegal invasion by calling me a "wingnut". It won't work any more, the base is wise to RINO BS. If the GOP cannot handle the issue, there will be changes in the GOP. I will be at the caucuses, assemblies, and conventions making that happen.

Nothing makes me as mad as an administration which has been bought off from enforcing the law (or is that a "wingnut" idea too).

102 posted on 09/30/2005 10:03:24 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Trteamer

Then I suggest you watch who you call a RINO.

And yes, this administration being bought off is a wingnut idea.


103 posted on 09/30/2005 10:09:56 AM PDT by A.Hun ("I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do" Heinlein)
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To: TChris

Don't forget the time he and Cheyney tried to steal Christmas to give it to their rich oil buddies, then gave the clean-up contract to Halliburton.


104 posted on 09/30/2005 10:23:11 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: A.Hun

Sounds like 104, he he. :P


105 posted on 09/30/2005 10:25:53 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII

Yeah, I spelled Cheney wrong. :D


106 posted on 09/30/2005 10:26:41 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII

You gotta watch out for that evil, vicious, Dick Cheney. It's really not George Bush's fault..its Cheney's!!! /sarc


107 posted on 09/30/2005 10:29:58 AM PDT by A.Hun ("I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do" Heinlein)
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To: after dark

Thanks for a great post.


108 posted on 09/30/2005 11:02:57 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: A.Hun

Ok, your not a RINO. So how do you explain the lack of enforcement of our laws. The buck stops at the White House. It is the federal government that is ordering my local law enforcement to let the illegals go when they catch them. That is just plain wrong.


109 posted on 09/30/2005 11:15:08 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Stu Cohen

"HOWEVER, a president has term limitations, and career congressmen do not. This is a very significant difference."

Agreed, but they can do so much more damage in those 4-8
years.

*Yes, a president CAN as well proven (by too many cites for here) by the Clintons' 8-year dual presidency. Certainly, a president's appointees can be problematic as well. Sec. of State Madeline Albright sowed more antiAmerican sentiment than good will in 8 years, and she seems to continue to do so as a private citizen.

We do have a theoretical constituted balance of powers. But, this nation is severely plagued by a two-party system with each vieing for power leverage on the gameboard at a great cost to America's resources and revenue, and a detriment to the well-being of the American productive majority citizenry. I am of an age which gives me a contemporaneous historical perspective that younger generations do not have. Their perceptions are based on a limited timeline and a very limiting education. Their scope of knowledge is hardly broader than political partylines and media mantras.

The first American president, George Washington, warned about the emergence of party partisanship zealots who would emulate Britains' Whigs vs the Tories infighting.

If there is a silent moral majority then it should form a viable party dedicated to adhering to American governance precepts and traditional social ideals which by definition are truly progressive. Thus, leaving the anemic Republicans and the socialist Democrats in the stale dust of their own making.

I am sick of all this wasteful wanton political crap.


110 posted on 09/30/2005 11:38:05 AM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valour!)
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To: chris1

After 9/11 he could have, should have, and had an obligation to secure the border. To always blame the libs for our not doing what should be done is tired, lazy, and infantile. GWB has become simply not credible anymore because of this.

How in good conscious can he talk about the Iraq border while ours is a sive?

Look on any corner or go shopping in any mall, these invaders are slowly suffocating us to death like the frog in ever increasingly warm water who dies a slow death.

*Actually, last month I was shopping in Keene, NH and went into Sears. I was surprised to see the Aisle Signs were both in English and Spanish. I am not aware of a significant Spanish speaking population in NH! I have yet to met anyone who speaks and reads only Spanish. I am brushing up on my Spanish - Mexican Spanish is very idiomatic. I studied formal Castellian Spanish with the lispy "D" (as in verdad pronounced verdath.) I want to be prepared for WHATEVER covertly imposed socio-politico engineering in the near future. Very strange...


111 posted on 09/30/2005 11:54:38 AM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valour!)
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To: purpleland

I neither wrote the article, nor answered anything.


112 posted on 09/30/2005 11:55:21 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Constantine XIII
Don't forget the time he and Cheyney tried to steal Christmas to give it to their rich oil buddies, then gave the clean-up contract to Halliburton.

Oh, of course not! We must never forget that Halliburton is The Kingdom of SatanTM. (They actually make a *gasp* profit dontcha know.)

113 posted on 09/30/2005 12:02:03 PM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: stuartcr

"I neither wrote the article, nor answered anything."

Huh? Have I said you did or did not? Explain, please.


114 posted on 09/30/2005 12:09:16 PM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valour!)
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To: purpleland

Call anyone with a Nextel phone and you will see what the heck is going on.

These past few years have been a nightmare in these areas.


115 posted on 09/30/2005 12:39:21 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: Trteamer

The INS has been doing random sweeps for illegals for years. When they tried to do it in California, the local officials would not allow them. So it's not just the Feds fault.

But I'm with you, if an illegal is caught in a criminal act, he should be deported immediately. There is no excuse for that not happening.


116 posted on 09/30/2005 12:39:39 PM PDT by A.Hun ("I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do" Heinlein)
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To: TheBattman
I honstely believe it's too late. Who's gonna round up the MILLIONS, of illegals now residing in the US? That's right - no-one. I can see it now - the press would eat up the opportunity to film and report on the "jack-booted thug NAZIs" (you know that's how they would be portrayed) forcibly arresting, rounding up, and exporting those "poor innocent hispanics who were just trying to make a better life for themselves - you know, the American Dream" (BARFFFFFFF).

Actually we wouldn't need to round up any illegal aliens. Instead, we need to:

1) Cut illegal aliens off from all taxpayer funded services.
2) Crack down hard on employers who hire illegal aliens.
3) Kick able-bodied Americans off of welfare.
4) If necessary, increase the number of LEGAL immigrants that we let into the United States.

By doing these things, illegal aliens would have no access to any jobs or any taxpayer funded freebies. Most illegal aliens would likely make the decision to voluntarily return to their home countries.

117 posted on 09/30/2005 12:53:22 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: purpleland

What question did I graciously answer?


118 posted on 09/30/2005 1:06:55 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: RebelBanker
2) Just how militarized do anti-immigration folks want our borders?

Who are these "anti-immigration folks" that you're referring to?

3) A substantial percentage of Hispanics regard this sort of thing as racist, i.e. 'We don't want any more of THOSE people in OUR country.' What politician in his right mind is going to infuriate the fastest growing bloc of voters in the country?

A substantial percentage of Hispanics living in the United States view illegal immigration as a major problem that needs to be addressed:

40% of Hispanic voters voted in favor of the anti-illegal alien measure Prop 187 in California in 1994.

47% of Hispanic voters voted in favor of the anti-illegal alien measure Prop 200 in Arizona last year.

A Time magazine poll done in August of this year showed that 61% of Hispanics rated illegal immigration as a "serious problem."

A recent survey conducted by the Pew Hispanic Center found that 60% of U.S.-born Hispanics support laws that deny driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

119 posted on 09/30/2005 1:14:37 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: judgeandjury
Actually, I agree with the set of suggestions you made in post #117 as a decent start toward controlling illegal immigration. Unfortunately, the incentive to come here would still be strong because life here would still be better (as an illegal) than it is in many other countries.

The problem I have seen is the difficulty in separating legal from illegal immigration. Too many Hispanic US citizens and legal immigrants see anti-illegal sentiment as racist. The liberal media is certainly spinning it that way as it pertains to conservatives and/or Republicans. This is prevalent in the Spanish-speaking media (according to Mrs. Reb, who is from Puerto Rico) which is even more liberal than the English-speaking media.
120 posted on 09/30/2005 1:30:23 PM PDT by RebelBanker (Captain's Log — Star date… star raisin… star plum… Freckin' star fruit! Where's my damn junkfood?)
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