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Massachusetts Should Close Down OpenDocument
FOX News ^ | September 28, 2005 | James Prendergast

Posted on 09/29/2005 8:52:01 PM PDT by Golden Eagle

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To: flashbunny
Thanks for pointing out the obviously biased source of the article. Microsoft must be getting scared. I can't wait to see the hysterics when they really throw it into FUD overdrive.
41 posted on 09/29/2005 9:20:00 PM PDT by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Yea what major US technology companies would back this format?

Dear Mr. Quinn:
I am writing on behalf of Sun Microsystems to support and applaud the Commonwealth of Massachusetts on the publication of the Public Review Draft of the ETRM v3.5. Both the process and the outcome provide thought leadership for the public sector across America and around the world.
We feel that requiring the use of an office document format, OpenDocument 1.0, which is standardized by a public process, completely free of legal encumbrances, already implemented in multiple products, not controlled by any one vendor, and on its way to being an ISO standard is enlightened and will pay long-term benefits to the citizens of Massachusetts. These benefits include preserving office document accessibility to the widest audience and for the longest term; an affirmation of the value of open standards in preserving choice and interoperability in software applications. This is also evidence of the soundness of your Enterprise Open Standards Policy (http://www.mass.gov/Aitd/docs/policies_standards/openstandards.pdf) which outlines your rationale for adopting open standards.
Some may contend that the decision is unfairly dictating a software preference. This is entirely wrong; the guidelines make it clear that any applications need only support an open, unencumbered document format. Your guidelines do not limit any vendor's ability to compete for state business because the required open formats are available equally to all,and participation in their development is equally open to all.
In closing, we'd like to thank the Commonwealth for including us in this process. Please don't hesitate to call on Sun again in future.
Sincerely,
Scott McNealy
Chairman and CEO
Sun Microsystems, Inc.

The OpenDocument standardization process also included many document users, especially those with the need to handle complex documents or to be able to retrieve documents for long periods of time after their development. Document-using organizations who initiated or were involved in the standardization process included (alphabetically):

* Boeing (complex large documents)
* CSW Informatics
* Drake Certivo
* Intel (complex large documents; they are developing sample documents as a test suite)
* National Archive of Australia (retrieve documents long after development)
* New York State Office of the Attorney General (complex large documents retrieved long after development)
* Society of Biblical Literature (large multilingual documents, long-term retrieval)
* Sony
* Stellent

42 posted on 09/29/2005 9:21:31 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: flashbunny

I don't think he does have any practical experience. I had a discussion with him a little over a year ago on the issue of open source security and injected some elements regarding public key cryptography into the discussion. Sakes alive...ol' Buzzy was as confused as an infant in a topless bar.


43 posted on 09/29/2005 9:21:42 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Prime Choice
Brass Buzzard

More name calling in support of your liberal causes.

44 posted on 09/29/2005 9:22:22 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: flashbunny
you speak like someone with absolutely no experience in tech or internet fields.

More insults in support of liberal causes.

45 posted on 09/29/2005 9:23:24 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Legal worries led Massachusetts to open standards
46 posted on 09/29/2005 9:23:27 PM PDT by ordinaryguy
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"Tin Turkey"? "Brass Buzzard"? Sounds like NSA operatives. LOL


47 posted on 09/29/2005 9:24:04 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: Golden Eagle

What's the upside of changing systems?


48 posted on 09/29/2005 9:25:10 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Golden Eagle; flashbunny; MikeinIraq; N3WBI3
And that took me less than 5 minutes to find out.

No surprise, doesn't make the points he made wrong.

Doesn't make 'em right, either. But it sure does make 'em biased.

...but you don't care about that, do ya Buzzy? Nahhh...you were hoping for a Redmond shill echo chamber, weren't ya? *snicker*

49 posted on 09/29/2005 9:25:11 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: ordinaryguy

That's right I export PDF file from open Office all the time.

Open Office is a little buggy sometimes but I like it. When it crashes on me The doc recovery is excellent. I can't complain it's free!


50 posted on 09/29/2005 9:25:25 PM PDT by underbyte
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To: Prime Choice
Hah - that sounds about right.

If he knew anything about the history of the internet and darpa, he would know why an open standard like TCP/IP was created - because prior to that, each vendor had its own communication protocol, so company A's computers couldn't communicate with company B's computers.

So instead of saying "gee, everyone has to adapt to company A's standards", they created a new, open standard to write to.

And by doing that, it created one of the greatest inventions of the 20th century.

I guess that is what he is opposed to- progress. Everything must advance according to the plans of microsoft.
51 posted on 09/29/2005 9:25:54 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: bahblahbah
Who the hell cares, let Massachusetts do whatever they want.

Actually it's important as the lines are becoming clearer between who is a liberal and supports policies like Mass's, and who doesn't.

52 posted on 09/29/2005 9:26:00 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: afnamvet
"Tin Turkey"? "Brass Buzzard"? Sounds like NSA operatives. LOL

Sssh!! Don't mention the NSA around Brass Buzzard. He think they're Communist dupes because they also use (looking furtively side to side)...Linux.

53 posted on 09/29/2005 9:26:08 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Golden Eagle

I don't think this is the big deal that some would like to think it is.

Most people don't care about who makes their document editor. What people want is a standard. They want to be able write something up and send it to somebody else and have them read it and edit it, probably even send it back for same. That's all.

If MA sets a standard that doesn't work outside of their little boundary... even they will stop using it in order to get work done. If it does work, then nobody will care.


54 posted on 09/29/2005 9:26:33 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 800 knives and counting!)
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To: Prime Choice

The original posting tries to pass this off as MERELY a Fox editorial...but now we know it's something much more (or less, depending on the perspective).


55 posted on 09/29/2005 9:26:45 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God for Cyborg.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Doesn't make me wrong.

And dude...you're still clueless.

56 posted on 09/29/2005 9:27:17 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Golden Eagle
More insults in support of liberal causes.

You and Bush2000 are gonna simply have to learn that if you post to incite you will get batted around.

57 posted on 09/29/2005 9:27:25 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: Prime Choice
Now all we're going to get is a lot of hissing, frantic swiping and erratic backpedaling

That's funny, since as usual you and the bunny are the ones doing all the hysterical shrieking. Sucks when you get stuck on the side of the libs up in MA I guess.

58 posted on 09/29/2005 9:27:47 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Socialist governments really go for the free stuff. Cuba...China...Massachusetts...


59 posted on 09/29/2005 9:27:55 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Well, what experience do you have?

Do you know anything about DARPA and the creation of the open TCP/IP standard?

Do you know why that was a good thing?

Do you have ANY experience in technology design or implementation, outside of using the internet to cheer lead for microsoft?
60 posted on 09/29/2005 9:28:04 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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