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ABLE DANGER: HIDE IN PLAIN SIGHT?
Front Page Magazine ^ | September 22, 2005 | David Horowitz

Posted on 09/29/2005 6:37:50 PM PDT by strategofr

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To: Pukin Dog; RunningWolf
Oh that was to good, I sent it to myself LOL, but Dog is the recipient

If you are so smart and I am an idiot, then why all these self-contradictions you make?

Wolf, ostensibly an idiot does not do that. Your profile page says that there is nothing we need to know about Puking Dog, but then you spend 50% of your posting activity telling us about you. Thats okay BTW.

You called me an idiot so what?

Ohhhh I get it, thats the trick thats the ticket, you announce you won't respond to my comments anymore, and then leave with a taunt that I'm a idiot.

Rather transparent I would say, so transparent that a primitive 'ol R-60T will do the trick before you can say 'dog'

Wolf

141 posted on 09/30/2005 1:01:35 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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To: Pukin Dog
I wonder why we never hear from Major America or Colonel America?
142 posted on 09/30/2005 1:05:12 PM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: auboy

"bttt = Bump To The Top"

But what does "bump" mean? (I'm not being a wise guy. I actually don't know.)


143 posted on 09/30/2005 2:17:32 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: strategofr

When you go to FreeRepublic.com, you'll see a list of topics, or threads, under discussion. Any reply to one of these threads moves that thread back up to the top of the list. In other words, it "Bumps" it to the top.

BTTT


144 posted on 09/30/2005 2:36:54 PM PDT by EasySt (Life is precious, live it well.)
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To: strategofr
Generally, bump means to make the thread more active (timewise), and gives it more chance to be noticed. Sometimes, I'll bump a specific post that I like or agree with.

I'm no expert, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :-)

145 posted on 09/30/2005 2:37:58 PM PDT by auboy (Alabama The Beautiful)
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To: hombre_sincero
Cell phones and satelite phones are OPEN SOURCE - but telling the enemy that is trying to KILL us exactly how, when and where we are gathering information is TREASON! After those reports, the US military lost MOST of their intelligence concerning enemy movements and locations. That was OPEN SOURCE. AMERICANS DIED.

SigInt data is not open source. Nice try though.

146 posted on 09/30/2005 3:14:51 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Pukin Dog
But there is a safer way of accomplishing the very same achievement. Keep liberals out of power. Let them whine, moan and attack, but don't let them run anything.

That's going to be hard to do, if everyone insists on not revealing information which would prove to the voters just what scum they are. While they are promising pie in the sky and a chicken in every pot and whining about how the mean republicans want "tax cuts for the rich" and to cut your Grannie's pension check to pay for them. And most importantly, while the mainstream media is aiding and abetting them in that endeavor.

147 posted on 09/30/2005 3:21:02 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: hombre_sincero
The Pentagon did not say they would not disclose anything, only that it should NOT be open to the public - only to the investigating committee.

If you'll look up thread, you'll see I have no problem with a closed hearing, as long as the *conclusions* of the hearing are reported, as opposed to the sources and methods used to gather the information leading to those conclusions, which may be properly classified. I just understood that in this case most of the sources and the methods were not classified.

148 posted on 09/30/2005 3:25:12 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Pukin Dog
We need a citizen Congress made up of average Americans who serve a single term of office and then go home.

I'd vote for that. Heck I'd even vote for term limits which would allow them a small number of terms. Say three in the house, two in the Senate. Maybe only one in the Senate. I might even allow an extra term for people elected speaker or president pro tem at the close of the previous term, although just how that might work is hard to fathom. Sort of an Up or Out policy for CongressCritters.

149 posted on 09/30/2005 3:28:46 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
I don't think you give Americans enough credit. Most still know the difference between truth and lies. If that wasn't true, Democrats would just tell the truth. They cant, because if they ever did, they would disappear as a viable political party. Most people pay no attention to political issues at all until just before election time. They check their wallets, their security, their freedom, and then they go to the polls. The losers and the scum who manipulate them vote for Democrats. The rest vote for our side. It is really that simple.
150 posted on 09/30/2005 3:30:34 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache- and now...CAPTAIN AMERICA!!)
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To: 68 grunt

That's a good guess, but it was actually the cheese and the Nazis that made modern france.


151 posted on 09/30/2005 5:20:57 PM PDT by jd777
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To: Pukin Dog
Looks like your view may be prevailing across the talk radio shows as well as any future hearings.

If what you have suggested is true, then may it be so.

152 posted on 09/30/2005 5:27:37 PM PDT by drc43 (Judges... Judges... get it done, then we can discuss priorities)
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To: drc43
Oh yeah? Good. Which talk show hosts agree with me?
153 posted on 09/30/2005 6:45:44 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache- and now...CAPTAIN AMERICA!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

I didn't think you were a smart ass. I thought you were a party animal! LOL, I love your posts!


154 posted on 09/30/2005 6:52:20 PM PDT by angcat
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To: Pukin Dog

Nothing explixit. Just noticed it has not been pursued so aggressively in last day or two.


155 posted on 09/30/2005 7:11:39 PM PDT by drc43 (Judges... Judges... get it done, then we can discuss priorities)
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To: nuconvert
I'm sorry you feel that way. I believe we would rally to protect him as long as we had the info that he both needed and deserved our protection. I trust he would kick out whoever has given him bad info, or done wrong, and we would rally.

Just look what they've done to his pole numbers.

He has done the damage to his poll numbers himself. This started in January: illegal aliens to become 'guest workers' doing jobs that Americans won't do; calling our Minutemen 'vigilantees'; big problems in Iraq, no solution, just more of the same; calling us names; doesn't need us. I could go on. How about Gonzales for SCOTUS? POTUS hissy fit at us.

These, and others, he could remedy. Starting by breaking a hole in that bubble. He's a very smart man, and politically wise as well. We would never allow them to pull a Watergate on us again. No way in Hades!

156 posted on 09/30/2005 7:26:38 PM PDT by meema
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To: Ramius

I disagree. When the Challenger blew up, it was grounded 3 years pending a top down bottom up investigation and review/reengineering.

Looking at government as a system, we need to investigate those responsible for security and intelligence failures because they are part of the system.

It's no different than the FAA investigating an airliner crash or Congress investigating the Enron accounting scandal.

These things require investigation. They are not optional.

And in this case, we need not proble sources and methods. We need only examine the decision process leading to destroying data and to failure to communicate threats to domestic investigative agencies e.g. FBI.


157 posted on 09/30/2005 7:33:56 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage

I understand. I simply don't agree. This isn't a crash investigation where we need to look for a faulty part. This is a war against an enemy that is not us.

We know what went wrong. Complacency, combined with stovepiping of information flow were sure problems. Those things disappeared in the wake of 9/11. No more complacency and no more restrictions on information flow.

This is not to say that 9/11 might even have been caught ahead of time had those effects not been working against us. People are clever. They find ways around whatever stands in their way.

Many of those things disappeared in the wake of 9/11. For example: Aircraft will never be so easy to hijack any more. It has nothing to do with changes in security methods at airports. It has everything to do with a change in ~attitude~ of the passengers and crew. The pre-9/11 passivity to a hijacking is gone. Today... hijackers even with guns could not kill fast enough to stop a couple hundred passengers from overwhelming them and reducing them to a bloody pulp. Things have changed.


158 posted on 09/30/2005 7:57:21 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 800 knives and counting!)
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To: EasySt

BTTT


159 posted on 09/30/2005 8:05:59 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: Pukin Dog
Data-mining is a very dirty business. If it is ever exposed how we get a lot of the information we get (and Democrats will do that just to protect Clinton) then the jig is up, and we will not be able to protect ourselves in this manner again.

But data-mining is the very thing that was stopped by government action, according to those involved in AD. And Shaffer suggested that it was because it may expose the politically powerful in this country. One can assume that the discovered facts exposure would embarrass the political elite in this country - and one can assume that this is the reason that the real facts are being suppressed.

160 posted on 09/30/2005 8:55:02 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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