Religious idea forced on classes, court told

Harrisburg Patriot-News ^ | 9/28/05 | Bill Sulon

[Dimensio]

I mentioned to someone the other day that evolution is really just a dead corpse, still flapping a bit.

Creationists have been saying this for 150 years now. Yet evolution remains a cornerstone of biology. Wonder why that is...

[Dimensio]

Finally we are on the same page. The only difference is is that your and my reality mean two entirely different things.

Reality is what it is. It is not subjective.

[RunningWolf]

I mentioned to someone the other day that evolution is really just a dead corpse.. ..The facade is crumbling. It's another religion, only the difference is it's a false one.

Also Jeremiah its been a cash cow, a livelihood for them.

Wolf

[gakrak]

Sorry, but you have not provided even a shred of the so called evidence. Evolution is a theory nothing more and nothing less. Amen.

[Rodney King]

Richard Dawkins who is a famous popularizer of neo-Darwinism

The guy from Family Feud?

[blowfish]

Yeh, you can tell which ones did. They are the undoctrinated ones.

They're also the ones totally unqualified to talk about science. :^)

[little jeremiah]

Sorry, I haven't watched TV in years and years!

I've not read a book by Dawkins, just quotes in other books.

I don't know, maybe he does have a TV show as well.

:-)

[little jeremiah]

Excellent point! They are defending their power, their prestige, their high positions in the universities and scientific organizations all over the world, they have their disciples and followers (and probably groupies as well..), honor and distinction follow them like handmaidens. They are the elite, the high priests, the aristocracy!

And when the theory of evolution is discarded on the scap heap of history, they will have lost everything that gives their lives meaning. Naturally they are clinging on for dear life. Who wants to admit that "my whole life was spent chasing a mirage, and it turns out I'm not only not as smart as I thought I was, I'm just a damn fool after all."

Better to be:

"a knuckledragging God believing evolution rejecting simpleton".

[RunningWolf]

They are defending their power, their prestige, their high positions in the universities and scientific organizations all over the world, they have their disciples and followers (and probably groupies as well..), honor and distinction follow them like handmaidens. They are the elite, the high priests, the aristocracy!

Thats about it!!

Who wants to admit that "my whole life was spent chasing a mirage, and it turns out I'm not only not as smart as I thought I was, I'm just a damn fool after all."

Well I for one, would reject it and run away as quick as I saw that. But then I'm just a simpleton knuckledragging God believing rejector of evolution with bad grammar and sentence structure.

Wolf

[Dimensio]

Evolution is a theory nothing more and nothing less.

Do you know what it means when an explanation is termed "theory" in science, or do you incorrectly believe that it just means "wild guess" or something similar?

What "more" would evolution be than "theory"? Be specifc.

[taxesareforever]

Real science, or just science?

[gakrak]

Well maybe a definition will help you. Theory is a systematically organized knowledge applicable in a relatively wide variety of circumstances, esp. a system of assumptions accepted principles, and rules of procedure devised to analyze, predict, or otherwise explain a specified set of phenomena. Abstract reasoning; speculation. Broadly, hypothesis or supposition. So my view is that it is more speculation than hard fact science as you propose. Amen.

[Dimensio]

Theory is a systematically organized knowledge applicable in a relatively wide variety of circumstances, esp. a system of assumptions accepted principles, and rules of procedure devised to analyze, predict, or otherwise explain a specified set of phenomena. Abstract reasoning; speculation. Broadly, hypothesis or supposition. So my view is that it is more speculation than hard fact science as you propose.

Your definition is good, but incomplete. Your definition, as it is, applies merely to "hypothesis". A "theory" is an overall explanation along the lines of the definition that you provided, but it has also made predictions that have been successfully tested and has generally come to be accepted as the most valid explanation for a given phenomena by scientists in the relevant field. In addition, a proper theory has a defined hypothetical circumstance under which it would be proven false. As such, a theory is much more than just "speculation", and it is inaccurate to define evolution as such.