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1 posted on 09/28/2005 9:02:15 PM PDT by manny613
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Dumbass Euro's. Clinton never had a majority in two elections.


2 posted on 09/28/2005 9:04:54 PM PDT by JustAnotherOkie
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Good article! Russia, India and China are Iran's new apologists This sentence would have been correct before last friday. Last friday, India dumped this policy and aligned with the USA to call for security council review. This is a big deal, and big news. Hooray for India!
3 posted on 09/28/2005 9:06:55 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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Most Americans admire Europe's cultivated lifestyle, public transportation and sophisticated take on world affairs. But they are puzzled as to why Europeans — well before the election of Bush — seemed to have defined themselves as the anti-United States.

VDH is being nice here - and inaccurate. At this point in history most Americans who know anything about it are wondering just how badly the Europeans will screw up the incredible historical opportunity they were handed, and why. I agree with him, though, in that it's time for a little disengagement.

That does not address the issue at hand, which is the realization by the American public after 9/11 of the magnitude and universality of the anti-American rhetoric in the continent, its venality, mendacity, and reverence for the comfortable lie. The sneering, unreasoning contempt in which the United States is held by the high majority of European intellectuals, politicians, cultural critics, media figures, and nearly anyone with more microphone than brain is simply overwhelming. That part of Europe is not worth saving and will not be missed.

6 posted on 09/28/2005 9:17:03 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Nations do not have friends, they have interests.

America should always do what is best for America.
7 posted on 09/28/2005 9:20:32 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (America has blood ties with Europe, but that doesn't mean we should act to make them "happy")
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Military matters especially seem to bring out our differences. In Iraq, Americans are caricatured by Europeans as Neanderthals bashing heads in the Sunni Triangle while the refined British patrol without helmets or sunglasses in the calmer Shiite south. Yet Basra is becoming lawless due to the British's laxity. Lately, an exasperated British military resorted to crashing a tank into an Iraqi detention center to try to rescue its own kidnapped soldiers.

The Poms won't be pleased to read this part of the article.

9 posted on 09/28/2005 9:30:52 PM PDT by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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Another great one ...


10 posted on 09/28/2005 10:02:08 PM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops and their Families)
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bogeymen neo-conservatives

IOW: Joose.

11 posted on 09/28/2005 10:10:16 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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...There are four general lessons here:

First, when Europe is occasionally forced to confront the same human and natural challenges that the United States regularly does, it fares no better and often far worse.

Second, European Big Government can be just as callous as American private enterprise and is often less efficient.

Third, Europeans' anger at the United States reveals their own uncertainty about failing policies that have somehow produced too few jobs. More optimistic countries like India, China, Australia, Japan and many in Eastern Europe look to the future, not the past — and don't seem to scapegoat the United States for their own self-induced problems.

Fourth, to maintain our historical friendship — and we must — it is time to politely let Europeans regain their confidence by standing on their own. Let's start by pulling our remaining troops out. A continent larger and more populous than our own after 60 years can tend to its own defense needs or lack there of — as we Americans move on



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24 posted on 09/29/2005 4:45:15 AM PDT by Tolik
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Great article that really nails the hypocrisy of the Europeans.

One point. Europeans had less civil liberties than the US prior to 9/11 and still do even after the Patriot Act.

The EU mandates hate speech laws. These laws are being used to attack people like Oriana Fallaci who speak out against the establishment of Eurabia. A Swedish Minister was convicted for saying homosexuality was "abnormal" in a sermon.

Britain's libel laws are anti-free speech and are used regularly to prevent criticism of Muslim financial supporters of terror and even politicians like Galloway.

France was deporting Muslim clerics prior to 7/11 without any due process. France has almost no protections for accused criminals.

Post 9/11, Ashcroft's Justice brought a suit to stop a school from banning the Hijab. France and parts of Germany ban the hijab in school. France also bans skullcaps and large crosses.



25 posted on 09/29/2005 5:51:00 AM PDT by dervish (no excuses)
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LOL, whoever did the mask around Victor Davis Hanson's head should learn to use Photoshop. There is a tool for masking, and the eraser ain't it.


29 posted on 09/29/2005 9:06:08 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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Most Americans admire Europe's cultivated lifestyle, public transportation and sophisticated take on world affairs.

Most Americans? I don't think so.

I think most Americans find the limp-wristed nature of so-called European "sophisticates" nauseating and effeminate.

And who the hell admires European "public transportation" in America? We love the independence of our cars and highways. And the unparalleled amount of air-travel in America afforded by our prosperous life-style.

And as far as Europes "cultivated lifestyle" we can afford twice as much of it as Europeans can, and America takes it a higher level than Europe ever could with their socialism and high taxes.

Give me a break.

32 posted on 09/29/2005 7:45:49 PM PDT by Jorge (Q)
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Interesting article!


41 posted on 10/01/2005 5:32:38 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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