Let's close the circle. Are your good friends in Texas Democrats or Republicans?
If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!
Posted on 09/28/2005 9:35:52 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay indicted on one count of criminal conspiracy by Texas grand jury, according to Travis County clerk's office.
Let's close the circle. Are your good friends in Texas Democrats or Republicans?
If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!
I suspect the DNC is also watching the DA in Palm Beach County and pushing every angle to get to Rush as well.
IMHO, the DEMS are doing a divide and conquer process with the American public and our Country.
It makes me sick!
Ah, a pothead Libertarian. That figures...
They're all corrupt. Show me an uncorrupted politician, and I'll show you one who will never make it to the federal level of politics.
Codswallop. The Democrats haven't done anything right for 40 years. What makes you think they finally "figured it out"?
Ah, a troll who calls people potheads without any evidence. That figures.
Okay. Have fun with that joint tonight.
Dan Rather is out of a job in case you needed to know. That was 5 years in the making. This latest attack against Delay has been in the queue for going on 2 years.
Yes, because I smoke tons of weed. /sarcasm
I'm sorry that you don't like it because he's "your guy", but maybe if you pretended he had a "D" before his name, you would see that Republicans are just as bad as Democrats.
Show me how the government has gotten smaller under "conservative" control. It's all just words they say to get our vote for them, when all they really want is the money.
Right. All indications are from those who have come forward from the Texas delegation have said there are apparent holes in this indictment. I say the Texas Democrats and the national DNC are grasping for straws.
Why is that bad news? I'd rather be a Republican voter who cares about the candidates and the issues, than a Democrat who (in fable) would vote for a yellow dog if it was in his party.
I'm not about to read through 900+ responses in this thread to find out if someone else questioned your statement, so my apologies if you've already explained your remark.
Thanks, it's been a while since I've been called that.
Judging from your comments, it looks like there a few of us around who think the same about you. (Pothead, not troll.)
I am a member of the Constitution Party, not the Republican Party.
(You really hate me now, don'tcha, Libertarian?)
Yes, because many people on this site seem to think if you are against the War on Some Drugs, you MUST be a dirty hippie who smokes weed.
No. All it takes is a law that is incredibly complex, a prosecutor on a mission who doesn't care about the law or the predecents, and a grand jury being led by the nose. The case is pretty simple, although the MSM mouthbreathers will try to make "the conspiracy" sound ominously underhanded. As I understand it:
(1) Delay's PAC accepted corporate contributions, which is perfectly legal. The use of the money is restricted, not the solicitation or receipt of it.
(2) Delay's PAC contributed the corporate funds, which it could not use in Texas state races, to the RNSEC. This is also perfectly legal.
(3) The RNSEC -- that's Republican National State Election Committee -- then contributed to Texas State races. This is also perfectly legal.
The prosecutor takes three perfectly legal actions and tries to conjure a crime. He does this by alleging that this kind of transaction is money laundering -- i.e., that the RNSEC simply took the Delay PAC contribution and passed it back. But this is not true, unless someone at the RNC bungled. Knowing several of the RNC lawyers and how carefully the RNC has monitored this sort of thing over the years, I very much doubt that happened.
On the contrary, the RNSEC would presumably have taken the Delay PAC contribution and put in a soft money account. The RNSEC would then be perfectly free to use that money in any state where corporate contributions are permitted. The funds the RNSEC sent back to Texas would have been "hard" dollars eligible for use in Texas. This sort of swap of soft for hard dollars has been done routinely over the years by both parties. There is nothing illegal about it. It is also perfectly routine for the Party committees on both sides to work hand-in-glove with outside groups to ensure that the right mix of hard and soft dollars are available when and where needed. Granted, the FEC keeps changing the rules on permissible coordination all the time and the whole subject is a minefield, but since the RNC was involved, I'm reasonably confident that the whole thing is appropriately documented and lawyered.
The prosecutor is advancing a theory of law that, if impartially applied, would require jailing just about anyone in either Party who has held a senior finance or campaign operations post in the last 20 years. Of course, impartial application is not what he has in mind. He has already confused and stampeded a gullible grand jury and hopes to do the same thing to a petit jury (and/or hope to get lucky with a corrupt 'rat judge). But if the law is followed -- as the law has been understood by both sides for a generation -- I'd be willing to bet that Delay is in the clear.
P.S. I've not read through the nearly one thousand posts on this thread. If this has been explained with greater precision by someone more knowledgeable than me, my apologies for the duplication.
I'm not going to get into a debate with you about this, as it is threadjacking.
Glad I missed it..
Good post.
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