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Lynndie England sentenced to 3 years in prison
tvnz.com.nz/ reuters ^ | Sept 27, 2005 | reuters

Posted on 09/27/2005 6:27:09 PM PDT by prairiebreeze

Lynndie England, the US soldier pictured holding a leash to a naked Iraqi inmate at Abu Ghraib prison in a scandal that prompted global outrage, was sentenced on Tuesday to three years in prison and given a dishonorable discharge.

In sentencing testimony just hours before, England, who had faced a maximum nine years behind bars, apologised for her actions and said she remained an American patriot.

"After the photos were released, I've heard that attacks were made on US armed forces because of them," she said.

"I apologise to coalition forces and all the families," England, speaking slowly, told the jury of five officers, also apologising to "detainees, the families, America and all the soldiers."

England, 22, was convicted on Monday of abuse such as being photographed pointing to the genitals of a naked Iraqi prisoner in a section of the prison were the administrative clerk did not have any official duties.

The former West Virginia chicken factory worker blamed her involvement on Charles Graner, the abuse ringleader and father of her child.

"I was embarrassed because I was used by Private Graner; I didn't realise it at the time," she said, sometimes pausing at length to gather her thoughts. "I trusted him and I loved him."

England's mother showed up briefly with the 11-month-old baby in the military courtroom for the first time, and the Army reservist talked at length about how the child, who bears a striking resemblance to Graner, had changed her life.

Remember the baby

As the jury began its deliberations on the punishment on Tuesday evening, England telephoned her mother to ask her to return to the courthouse with the baby for their last time together before her sentencing.

England's testimony and appearance by the baby was a clear last effort to humanise a woman whose face is known worldwide but who has said little in public. Her lawyer, Capt. Jonathan Crisp, asked the jury to remember the baby and not sentence England to prison.

"Let her go home, send her home," Crisp said. "She will probably in all likelihood be facing this stigma for the rest of her life."

The prosecution asked the jury for a sentence of four to six years. "I cannot think of another incident that has more tarnished the image of the US Army," Capt. Chris Graveline said. "Who can think of a person who has disgraced the United States Army more?"

England was found guilty on six counts on Monday. All include the language of "wrongfully posing for a photograph."

The publication of these images early in 2004 caused major damage to America's image.

Asked by one of her lawyers about a photo of her baby with an American flag, England replied, "I'm still patriotic, ma'am, very much."

Graner admits abuse

By contrast, Graner, who is serving a 10-year sentence for abuses at the prison outside Baghdad, did not show any repentance earlier in the day and said he was acting on behalf of US military intelligence.

"Sir, I nearly beat a military intelligence detainee to death with military intelligence there," Graner, 37, told the court. "We treated each military detainee specifically on how the handler wanted."

Defense lawyers have sought to show that England was overly compliant to authority and Graner in particular. About England, Graner said, "She's young, she's suggestible."

England said Graner swept her off her feet.

"He was very charming, funny and, at the time, it looked like he was interested in the same things I was," she said. "I trusted him to help me out, to lead me to the right things."

The prosecution had agreed to a plea deal in May in which England would serve no more than 30 months in confinement. The judge negated the deal after hearing testimony from Graner that suggested England may not have been guilty.

England's case was the latest prosecution or plea bargain of low-level soldiers who served at Abu Ghraib.

The military has also reprimanded a small number of higher-ranking officers but none has faced criminal charges.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abughraib; courtmartial; lynndieengland; panties; prison; shame
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To: cynicom
I can still spell Lt. Calley. Different war but that young man walked the Army plank

There were two major injustices there. (1) that Calley and Medina (at least) didn't hang, and (2) that someone like Calley, with about an 80-85 IQ, was made an officer in the first place. These days he'd have a hard time getting in the Army, period, and he wouldn't get anywhere near infantry.

Curiously, Calley chose to settle in Columbus, GA (Army town, Ft Benning) and he still lives there, but as you can imagine, he likes his privacy. Last information I had on him, he had a bad alcohol problem.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

81 posted on 09/27/2005 9:00:15 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Grizzled Bear
There was one member of that guard unit (I don't recall his name) who turned them in and is getting grief from the unit's home area. I respect that young man. He did the right thing.

It was a reserve unit, not a Guard unit. 800th MP Brigade, 320th MP Battalion, 372nd MP Company. AP and CNN don't get this but we know there are a lot of people between a PFC and a BG in any setup the Army has.

I believe the whistleblower you have in mind is SP/4 Joseph M. Darby, 372nd MP Company. He was commended by MG Taguba. One of three soldiers (a lieutenant and a navy PO 1/c were the others) that the general thought deserved praise.

For everybody that has forgotten the facts of the matter, or has only read the stuff in the mainstream press, I recommend the Taguba report. Here is a trustworthy link to it

FindLaw, HTML format with annexes: http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/iraq/tagubarpt.html

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

83 posted on 09/27/2005 9:22:49 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: F15Eagle
No one ever said Marines were smart. This guy, Wassef Ali Hassoun, went missing, then they changed his status to Missing Captured, then he turned up in Lebanon. Then they debriefed him. Initial debriefings, he looked like a hero, but little things didn't quite come together. And then the story unraveled.

They finally charged him with UA and larceny (IIRC, of his handgun). But never took him into custody, and, in fact, gave him leave. (Like I said, nobody ever said Marines were smart). He didn't show up for his trial at the end of his leave -- imagine that. He now has an honoured place on the Navy's most wanted list:

http://www.ncis.navy.mil/wanted.cfm?id=134

There's also a nifty .pdf wanted poster you can download.

Also, POW Network has a page with some news stories on Hassoun. http://www.pownetwork.org/gulfII/hassoun.htm

Location, anybody's guess. Supposedly he's PNG in Lebanon and can't return.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

84 posted on 09/27/2005 9:39:31 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: operation clinton cleanup
She should have plea bargained... the MSM talked her into fighting the charges and making Donald Rumsfeld the scapegoat.

If you'll recall, she did plead guilty, but the trial judge threw out the plea based on that slime ball Graner's testimony that said she didn't know the pictures were not to be used for training, while she had said she knew they were for the guards personal jollies.

It's interesting that she stuck with a military JAG officer as her defense attorney, whereas many in such high profile cases go with a civilian attorney.

86 posted on 09/27/2005 10:44:53 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: hombre_sincero
Unfortunately though, officers are usually treated more leniently - like white collar criminals - "the embarrassment is punishment enough" is the usual excuse for light sentences.

Much of that is not because of some "old boys club" mentality, although there is a bit of that, it's because their offenses are generally of omission, not commission. They fail to do their jobs properly, but do not commit any direct crimes, or at least any that can be proven. Even the military justice system requires proof of criminal actions before incarcerating people for long periods.

It may be relatively easy to prove that Corporal Alpha took a cattle prod to some Jihady's private parts, especially if his buddies took pictures, it may be a lot harder to prove that General Omega ordered it, unless she wrote the order down, and it's even harder to prove that she willfully looked the other way while a crime was being committed.

87 posted on 09/27/2005 10:53:57 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: JoeFromSidney
that sentence sounds fair for the actual crime she was guilty of - mainly stupidity.

People are entitled to be stupid, Joe. The UCMJ frowns gravely upon those who abuse the privelige to the detriment of the service.

Besides, I hear that Leavenworth is lovely this time of year.

Jack.

88 posted on 09/27/2005 10:59:04 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: Texas Songwriter
The military found an ignorant girl who was not leadership quality material, who did what she was told, who never heard of the Geneva Convention, much less read it,...who only knew to do what she was told by an officer of higher rank....in other words,...a dumbass.

She did was she was told by the man she was having sex with. A man who was taking advantage of a woman who could most charitably be called very plain, and not very bright. The fact that he was Corporal is not really of much importance. A corporal is the very lowest rank of all NCOs and NCOs aren't generally referred to as "Officers", even though that's what the "O" in NCO stands for. Unless you feel yourself in need of a new orifice, I wouldn't go calling your corporal Sir or Mamm, and you try it with your Sgt. Major. and you'll probably end up with several new orifices.

I too think the sentence was about right, although I wouldn't have objected to just a dishonarble discharge either. The media made her the poster girl for the scandle, but in reality she was jsut a bit player.

89 posted on 09/27/2005 11:04:20 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Brofholdonow
I'm sure the 42nd president has had dreams about this woman.

She's a bit too innocent looking for his tastes. He likes 'em sleazy. However the leash bit might appeal to him.

90 posted on 09/27/2005 11:06:28 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Jack Deth
Besides, I hear that Leavenworth is lovely this time of year.

Being from not far from there, it probably is. But come December, January and February, and again in June, July, August (and this year September), not so much.

91 posted on 09/27/2005 11:12:29 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Criminal Number 18F
there's still one captain who's going to jail

do tell. this is the first I've heard of it.

92 posted on 09/27/2005 11:16:14 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
She should have plea bargained...

She did, but then the judge threw it out. He said she didn't know what she was doing. Her original plea bargain would have gotten her 18 months IIRC.

93 posted on 09/27/2005 11:20:16 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Criminal Number 18F
"A bunch of heads have rolled. ... She [BG Karpinski] was pushed into retirement as a colonel."

Ha! Please "punish" me that way. You do know that an O-6's retirement pay is at 20 years $46,800 a year, and at 25 years $61,300, and even higher for more don't you? I don't know how many years Karpinski had in, but in any case that ain't "punishment."

94 posted on 09/27/2005 11:25:59 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: DogBarkTree

If you're serious, then you have a terrible problem with ethics and in finding ugly, stupid, immoral, evil women attractive.


95 posted on 09/27/2005 11:29:14 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MizSterious

It wasn't just panties on the head. Have you completely forgotten what she and Graner did to the prisoners ?


96 posted on 09/27/2005 11:30:29 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: prairiebreeze
The military has also reprimanded a small number of higher-ranking officers but none has faced criminal charges.

No suprise there.

97 posted on 09/27/2005 11:33:03 PM PDT by semaj (qu)
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To: DogBarkTree

Uncle Hulka? LOL


98 posted on 09/27/2005 11:33:18 PM PDT by Cougar66 (Will Rogers never met today's liberals)
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To: Texas Songwriter
They cut the Americans heads off, videoed the event, and then threw the corpse on the side of the highway.

It could be pointed out that they only started doing that after the Arab street found out what had been going on in Abu Grahib, so those beheadings are down to the funtimes of the REMFs in the prison.

She got off easy.

99 posted on 09/28/2005 7:52:17 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I'm a CHOP (Chauvanistic Older Person) not a SNAG (Sensitive New Age Guy)
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To: axes_of_weezles

Ohhhh, I didn't know her relatives were the culprits! Ok, 10 years works for me--on top of the three she's already getting!


100 posted on 09/28/2005 1:46:04 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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