[HitmanLV]

Yea, so long as its not abusive. The kid I had to deal with was a monster by any standard. I took my hand under his chin, smiled, and pinched hard - combined with my clenched teeth, It got the message across.

The most likely way a youngster could reach that age and be that way is weak adult figures in their life, I figure.

[CodeToad]

"Yea, so long as its not abusive. "

The problem is that today any touching at all by the school faculty is considered "asault" and "abusive".

"The most likely way a youngster could reach that age and be that way is weak adult figures in their life, I figure."

Absolutely. The kid in my story also got the belt when he got home. No way would a kid today face such troubles for mouthing off.

[ASOC]

Hummm

My better half works at a school full of this kind of out-of-control (fill in the blank) 'student'.

One day I was visiting & one them started in on me. I held up a finger and in a low voice told him to "STFU, I don't work here you little [expletive deleted several times] - and you gotta go off-campus sometime. You DO NOT want to [more expletives here I'm afraid] with me, period"

Never had a problem him or his homies since. You are right, they get so used to being the bully to adults (for Pete's sake!) and getting away with it.

CROM! Glad my kids are done with nonsense.