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To: Scotswife

latria, dulia and hyperdulia all translate to worship. It is like the many greek terms for love.

When people started reading the Bible and questioning the Catholic traditions that didn't seem to match Scripture, these words were given different translations.

And I like this little blurb from Catholic.com "Though one should know it from one’s own background, it often may be best to simply point out that Catholics do not worship anyone but God and omit discussing the history of the term. "

I did not misrepresent the catholic faith. Next time it would be best to simple say "Move along, nothing to see here!" because you're not supposed to talk about it.

71 posted on 09/28/2005 5:57:38 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: Tao Yin

Actually - yes you do misrepresent the faith, but that is not surprising.

People didn't just happen to "start" reading the bible centuries after the canon was established. What they did is they started to stray from the interpretation held by the Church since the beginning.

But yes...moving along is a good idea as I have grown weary of the same old conversation...

protestant: "you catholics worship Mary and the saints"
catholic: "umm...no we don't"
protestant: "yes - you catholics worship Mary and the saints"
catholic: "no - we catholics do not worhip Mary and the saints"

and so and so forth.
Very boring.

Since you've heard of catholic.com and seem intent on arguing, why don't you take it up with these folks here?

http://forums.catholic.com/forumdisplay.php?f=20

I for one think my time is better spent reading scripture.
God Bless you.


115 posted on 09/28/2005 12:20:27 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Tao Yin; Scotswife
* latria - the honor that is due to God alone * dulia - the honor that is due to the saints * hyperdulia - (huper [more than]+ dulia = "beyond dulia"), the honor due to Mary alone latria, dulia and hyperdulia all translate to worship. It is like the many greek terms for love.

When people started reading the Bible and questioning the Catholic traditions that didn't seem to match Scripture, these words were given different translations. * latria - worship * dulia - honor * hyperdulia - venerate

And I like this little blurb from Catholic.com "Though one should know it from one’s own background, it often may be best to simply point out that Catholics do not worship anyone but God and omit discussing the history of the term. "

I did not misrepresent the catholic faith. Next time it would be best to simple say "Move along, nothing to see here!" because you're not supposed to talk about it.

You are correct that there are different words for "worship", however, as you (apparently unintentionally) demonstrate, they don't all mean the same thing. That's what the sentence from catholic.com is referring to.

More precisely, it wasn't until recently that in OUR language, English, the word "worship" was taken to mean ONLY the highest form, or latria, as you define. That is what catholic.com means when it says, "Though one should know it from one’s own background, it often may be best to simply point out that Catholics do not worship anyone but God and omit discussing the history of the term."

Again, the term "worship" didn't mean, until recently (the 20th century) ONLY latria. It could also mean dulia and hyperdulia. Thus, in attempting to discredit the Catholic "worship" of Mary with your definitions, you actually demonstrate quite effectively how Catholics do NOT "worship" Mary as we understand the word "worship" today.

Thanks!

Mental note to self: I must learn how to do those bullets in text. I'll get myself to the HTML sandbox one of these days for a refresher!

186 posted on 09/30/2005 9:14:43 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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