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Ninth-grader punished for asking Army pilot sensitive question
The State ^ | September 23, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/27/2005 4:33:37 AM PDT by billorites

FARGO - A ninth-grader here has been banned from his school's assemblies after asking a sensitive question to a U.S. Army pilot.

Phil Sannes also had to apologize to speaker Michael Durant after he asked the "Black Hawk Down" helicopter pilot on Thursday whether he had been raped during his capture by hostile forces in Somalia.

"He asked a fair, hard-balled question," said Phil's dad, Jon Sannes. "I don't know why he's being punished."

"I felt the question posed was inappropriate at that time and that place," said Peggy Stibbe, assistant principal.

In 1993, Durant flew a Blackhawk in Mogadishu, Somalia. The Army pilot was shot down and captured for 11 days. His story inspired the movie, "Black Hawk Down."

He spoke to more than 500 eighth- and ninth-grade students at the Fargo middle school.

The pilot talked about being shot down and captured, but told students there were details he didn't want to share, Stibbe said.

"He knew for a ninth-grade group he could only take it so far," she said.

At the end of the presentation, Durant opened the floor to student questions. That's when Phil Sannes asked his.

"I just wanted to know," the ninth-grader said. "It was a serious question."

Durant said it was a good question, but he wouldn't answer it.

Jon Sannes said forcing his son to apologize and to miss future assemblies violates his son's right to free speech. A school is supposed to encourage students to think and ask questions, he said.

Jon Sannes said he and his son talk about world news events at home.

"You hear about people being beheaded and tortured during war," he said. "My son just had a question about that."

Stibbe said the school usually schedules only one assembly a year.


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To: leadpenny

Yeah, we all have every right to askk any a question any place we please,,,but civil people know what not to ask. And being civil is as important a virtue to learn as "what your rights are"

Would you agree on that. If this were my kid, I would give him a lecture he would never forget.


81 posted on 09/27/2005 6:00:49 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: billorites

A ninth grader is definately old enought to know that you don't ask a question like that.

It's extremely rude and disrespectful. If it were a woman that he asked that question, he would have been expelled from the school.

I find it hard to believe he didn't ask such a question to be intentionally disruptive and disrespectful.

The fact that the kids father is defending him instead of teaching his kid to be respectful says there are serious problems in that family.


82 posted on 09/27/2005 6:00:58 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: ovrtaxt

You are wrong.

To ask "do islamofascists rape men and women who are captive" is a fine question.

To ask of a man, in public, "were you raped" is atrocious.

And most people know the difference.


83 posted on 09/27/2005 6:03:08 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: untrained skeptic

Obviously the kid had been coached by his parents to embarrass a military man.


84 posted on 09/27/2005 6:03:20 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: hombre_sincero
We don't know the exact statement of the kid for sure so the homosexual intent is not clear. In Europe we had a very direct comments on what happened in Abu Ghraib prison in the news. That kind of things had happened in an US prison why not during a capture in Somalia?

Nothing was mentioned about how the teachers prepared the students for the meeting. If they don't you can blame them. If they did and told the kids not to ask questions in a specific direction then a punishment is appropriate.
85 posted on 09/27/2005 6:03:46 AM PDT by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: cajungirl

I don't know. I'm conflicted on the whole issue. Did the MS administrators believe CWO Durant was just going to be asked about helicopter flying? Maybe someone needs to ask them what they expected? The kids know he's been through hell and they have questions about it.


86 posted on 09/27/2005 6:09:24 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: roses of sharon

Note the father's statement that "he asked a fair hard balled question".

I imagine knowing the men in my life that asking one of them in public was he raped might be an occasion that would cause incredible discomfort or downright violence whether he was or not.

And the father seemed to relish the asking that aquestion of a military man. Hmmm,,agenda.


87 posted on 09/27/2005 6:10:37 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: jimbo123
It was a fair question.

It was a classless, idiotic question. The little buffoon should be expelled, and his classless idiotic dad should be fined.

88 posted on 09/27/2005 6:12:31 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (</i>)
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To: leadpenny

We might just disagree.

But I cannot imagine any circumstance where his question would be appropriate unless in a small group of people preparing others for military actions. And even then I think it would be alluded to in a generic non specific sense.


89 posted on 09/27/2005 6:12:33 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: BelegStrongbow

ping.


90 posted on 09/27/2005 6:31:36 AM PDT by Alia
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To: fortheDeclaration

I wouldn't have answered the question, either.


91 posted on 09/27/2005 6:32:25 AM PDT by Alia
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To: SlowBoat407
Good post. I agree.

What matter here, IMHO, is why the student is being punished. Were the students instructed, pre-assembly, to keep their line of questions within civil protocol? If this wasn't made clear to the students, then, IME, there's no grounds to punish the student.

92 posted on 09/27/2005 6:35:35 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

The student is hardly being punished. He was asked to apologize and he has been banned from future assemblies. Wow. Some punishment.


93 posted on 09/27/2005 6:38:56 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Shiny things distract me :))
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To: cyborg

"What was the question? "

What? The question was in the second sentence.


94 posted on 09/27/2005 6:39:55 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: cajungirl

Yes, I see the difference. I guess I was just trying to assume the best about the kid, but you make a good point.


95 posted on 09/27/2005 6:44:25 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the looting! The IRS hates competition.)
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To: billorites

This kid has a future as a journalist...maybe successor to David Gregory.


96 posted on 09/27/2005 6:46:03 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: leadpenny
"I don't know if Durant has written a book but something tells me he has."

Yes he did write a book: "In the Company of Heroes: A True Story." Here's the link to it on Amazon:

In the Company of Heroes

97 posted on 09/27/2005 6:50:09 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Alia
Were the students instructed, pre-assembly, to keep their line of questions within civil protocol? If this wasn't made clear to the students, then, IME, there's no grounds to punish the student.

Oh come on. A 14 year old is old enough to know that asking whether someone was raped is inappropriate. I remember being that age, and the only time questions as rude as that were ever asked was by people purposely trying to be offensive or make a scene.

98 posted on 09/27/2005 6:51:24 AM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: AppyPappy

It was up to the school officials to moderate the questions. Any fool knows that teens, especially boys, think about sex 90 percent of the time. A teacher should have stepped in and redirected the question to ask "Were you tortured?" or "Were you mistreated?" Frankly I think the pilot's answer was a good one and the entire thing should have been dropped. Perhaps the boy should have been counseled in proper deportment. He and the father may have an open relationship that allows them to talk about it, but I would bet that if the father had been raped he wouldn't want his son to ask him about it in front of 500 people.


99 posted on 09/27/2005 6:56:50 AM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: libsl
He and the father may have an open relationship that allows them to talk about it, but I would bet that if the father had been raped he wouldn't want his son to ask him about it in front of 500 people.

The father's screwed up regardless. He defends the boy by saying all he was asking was a "fair, hardball question". WTF? Who does he think this POW is, some guy running for office?

100 posted on 09/27/2005 7:00:53 AM PDT by SpringheelJack
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