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1 posted on 09/26/2005 12:47:58 PM PDT by manumission
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Hmmm yeah tell me again why I should go vote Republican again?

oh.. for the Chilren


2 posted on 09/26/2005 12:49:29 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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I'm in favor of equal protection for everyone.

That includes homosexuals and all races and genders.

So is the cosntitution. How is this bill requiring unequal protection possibly gonna be constitutional?

How did it pass with a Republican majority?


3 posted on 09/26/2005 12:51:45 PM PDT by gondramB ( There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down .)
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It won't survive the court challenge, but write your Senator and demand a no vote.


4 posted on 09/26/2005 12:52:06 PM PDT by wvobiwan (Liberal Slogan: "News maganizes don't kill people, Muslims do." - Ann Coulter)
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I hope you aren't criticising the GOP. If so, you couldn't be more wrong. You see, you "my way or the highway" conservatives just don't get it. This is all part of a grand strategy to defeat the democrats, once that is accomplished, then we can start talking about promoting our agenda. /sarcasm


5 posted on 09/26/2005 12:52:24 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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I don't scare easy, but this does the trick.

Libertarian party here I come.


6 posted on 09/26/2005 12:54:29 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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I hope that does not mean Howard Dean is illegal now. He is so much fun!
7 posted on 09/26/2005 12:55:05 PM PDT by SF Republican
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What a load of crap!

This essentially states that Congress can make things up and we have to buy it. For each class of characteristic they deem to be a protected class, including, sexual preference, they claim that people are being forced across state lines to avoid persecution???

Where?????


9 posted on 09/26/2005 12:55:48 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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Absolutely astounding..

Are these supposed to be laugh lines???

"These authorities can carry out their responsibilities more effectively with greater Federal assistance"

"..it devastates not just the actual victim and the family and friends of the victim, but frequently savages the community sharing the traits that caused the victim to be selected. "

"Such violence substantially affects interstate commerce in many ways:.."


14 posted on 09/26/2005 12:58:26 PM PDT by Pessimist
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Notify the Republican Congressional Committee that you will no longer be contributing. I did and told them why. I got the feeling I wasn't the first.
17 posted on 09/26/2005 1:04:27 PM PDT by bella1
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Christian property in the confiscation crosshairs..

Go long in guillotine stox...


18 posted on 09/26/2005 1:07:10 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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Check out excuse #9 for why this falls under interstate commerce:

"Such violence is committed using articles that have traveled in interstate commerce"

Well, there you have it. We all wear clothes and eat food that have crossed state lines. Apparently then congress has the constitutional right to regulate any and every action of every single American.

Glad they cleared that up for me.

This has to be a new high water mark in the stretching of that notion. I thought I had seen it all when it was applied to drug free school zones, but no. This takes it.


20 posted on 09/26/2005 1:09:39 PM PDT by Pessimist
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Thought crimes. This once Constitutional Republic is being driven to a most uncivil war by our rulers who cannot abide our Ratified Constitution, the one in their oath of office and the only one which confers upon them any claim of office or public sector employment. Once they nullify enough of our ratified Constitution, they are but of outlaw gangs, oligarch dictators demanding for more and more power over us, under color of law.


21 posted on 09/26/2005 1:09:58 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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We're really downsizing government in this "republican" administration! {cough cough}


22 posted on 09/26/2005 1:11:12 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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26 posted on 09/26/2005 1:16:48 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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I will never support any "special victims" law no matter who it protects, perverts or boy scouts!

We are equal before the law and mugging anyone is an equally serious crime and deserves equal punishment.

Murdering anyone likewise should be punishable equally regardless of who the victim is!

Why is that simple concept so hard to grasp?

29 posted on 09/26/2005 1:19:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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Throughout history, many homosexuals have sodomized underage boys.
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lol - and many heterosexuals have had relations with underage girls... big whup.

I agree with their larger point, a crime is a crime, but things like this make them look childish.


30 posted on 09/26/2005 1:31:36 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
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Ah, the infinitely elastic Commerce Clause of FDR and LBJ.

(6) Such violence substantially affects interstate commerce in many ways, including--

(A) by impeding the movement of members of targeted groups and forcing such members to move across State lines to escape the incidence or risk of such violence; and

(B) by preventing members of targeted groups from purchasing goods and services, obtaining or sustaining employment, or participating in other commercial activity.

(7) Perpetrators cross State lines to commit such violence.

(8) Channels, facilities, and instrumentalities of interstate commerce are used to facilitate the commission of such violence.

(9) Such violence is committed using articles that have traveled in interstate commerce.

34 posted on 09/26/2005 1:55:55 PM PDT by Ken H
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So now we are punishing people on THOUGHT. To me a crime is a crime, and it really does not matter what they were thinking. This is just a Politically correct bill.


35 posted on 09/26/2005 1:57:05 PM PDT by Sprite518
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Many house members, too busy to read the bill, thought they were protecting children

I wouldn't be so quick to give them the benefit of the doubt.

They knew exactly what they were doing.

36 posted on 09/26/2005 1:58:31 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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RINO Jim Kolbe was one of the very few Republicans who voted for the amendment to this "Child Safety" legislation which provides "hate crimes protections" (ie. special rights) for those who have chosen a deviant same-sex lifestyle (aka. "gays" or "homosexuals") and those who have had or want to have their genitalia surgically mutilated or removed to make them cosmetically appear as a member of the opposite sex (aka. "transgenders" or "transexuals").

Since being forced to admit to his chosen lifestyle (ie. coming out), and despite his promises at the time that his voting habits would not change, RINO Rep. Kolbe has become a champion for the radical gay agenda and can't seem to find gay agenda promoting legislation that he wont sponsor or vote for. His voting record and public statements on this issue are totally at odds with the Republican Party Platform.

The good news is that RINO Jim Kolbe is being challenged by a conservative Republican in the 2006 Primary Election. Randy Graf is a solid pro-life, pro-family, pro-border security Reagan Republican who served successfully as the House Majority Whip in the Arizona House of Representatives.

Randy Graf deserves your support. You can learn more about Randy Graf and how to support him by visiting his website at www.votegraf.com. Your help is desperately needed as Jim Kolbe was able to outspend Randy Graf by 10-1 in last years Primary Election.

37 posted on 09/26/2005 2:08:09 PM PDT by Spiff (I think that looters AND people who continue to misspell "Martial Law" should be shot.)
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