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Katrina evacuee would like his dog back (Nevills REFUSES to return Shuma to owner of 14 years)
The Examiner ^ | September 24, 2005 | Andre Riley

Posted on 09/24/2005 11:02:05 PM PDT by Former Military Chick

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To: DoughtyOne

Hope it turns out happy.
I've had enough sad in the last month to last me a good, long time.


21 posted on 09/25/2005 12:17:35 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: Salamander

Sorry to hear that, so here's to wishing things turn out happy for you as well.


22 posted on 09/25/2005 12:20:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It's not in my life, per se.

It's been all the sadness about the animals affected by Katrina.

This stuff hits me where it hurts most.

Thanks for your kindness, though...:)


23 posted on 09/25/2005 12:22:26 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: sourcery

To be bailment consideration has to be given. That would be if the original owner paid the other party to take care of the dog for a while. This situation is a volunatry give up, no bailment exists.

Still this is a case of property being withheld without permission, The original owner had the other party take care of the dog and did not relinquish property rights. Title to the property, the dog, still resides with original owner.
What the owner needs is an writ of replevin.


24 posted on 09/25/2005 12:39:57 AM PDT by Rhiannon
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To: DJ MacWoW

I am also using some of the information from last nights news cast here in the greater KC area. I add the link in the original comments of this thread.

Yes, it is disturbing that Nevill went on the local radio show voicing that the owner of Shuma was not really a victim of a hurricane. Thankfully the news channel debunked that but still she got her say and folks heard. What type of evil goes around speaking untruth's ...

Well, I have been quite open on my thoughts of this woman so perhaps some might call me evil as well as it deals with my opinion of her.


25 posted on 09/25/2005 12:43:23 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Racehorse

Please if you have other links to this issue send them along. I have only been able to find the coverage of our local news channel and this one all of which convey the same thing, that he had to give him up because he could not take him to temp digs. He found a home, went back to retrieve Shuma only to be turned away.

Her response, that her kids bonded with the dog and she would not give him up. Further, she said HE could go and find another dog to take Shuma's place.


26 posted on 09/25/2005 12:45:47 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Rhiannon
I agree about the writ of replevin.

However, the definition of a bailment does not require that any consideration be given.

27 posted on 09/25/2005 12:47:39 AM PDT by sourcery (Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
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To: Kimmers

PING


28 posted on 09/25/2005 1:18:35 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick; Salamander
Please if you have other links to this issue send them along.

I really don't.  After reading your post yesterday, I googled for a bit, looking for some response from the woman, but none of the articles gave any more information than you've already posted.

Should I stumble onto something, I'll certainly pass the link along.  I suppose the bonding excuse pretty much goes to what Salamander describes as pure spite.

29 posted on 09/25/2005 1:39:26 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I personally can't think of anything that would give me more pleasure than returning a pet to a long time owner.

My mother once adopted a stray cat. A year and a half later the original owner spotted it in my mother's yard. They had pictures of the cat as a kitten, complete with its unique markings. They were so happy to have it back.


30 posted on 09/25/2005 1:57:46 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Racehorse; rawhide; Salamander
I appreciate the clarification and your time should you stumble across something.

I have no doubt a person can find themselves enjoying the company of a new pet. I mean how can one not, pet's bring such joy to our lives. But, for her to say that her children outweigh on the bonding verses 14 years as the faithful friend of a family just hits me to the core. What nerve.

Reading the comments of both rawhide and Salamander it gives one pause on doing the right thing and how difficult it is but the joy of doing the right thing always trumps the sorrow. I cannot imagine a child having to lose a pet, but, I do think an adult can hurt just as bad when beloved friend is no longer with us.

Rawhide's and Salamander's comment's should be the norm of human spirit. Well, I can hope!

31 posted on 09/25/2005 2:04:38 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Racehorse

I can't even get the blasted video links to play...:-\



32 posted on 09/25/2005 2:14:24 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: Former Military Chick

!

That's *got* to be the first time anyone *ever* referred to me as "norm[al]"....;D

I have a crazy suggestion on how to solve this whole thing simply.

Place her and her family in a room with him and his family and then bring in the dog.

Whomever the dogs goes to, gets him.

[just call me Solomon Mander]...;-D




33 posted on 09/25/2005 2:19:34 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: Salamander

A kid without a dog is a crime against humanity....:)
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What if they don't want one? I never did.


34 posted on 09/25/2005 3:43:02 AM PDT by Cheburashka
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To: Former Military Chick
Since my adulthood, all my dogs have been my little "dumplings" -- they were "dumped". They either came from a shelter or I adopted them from someone who could no longer care for them.

This poor German Shepard is probably heartsick over the loss of his owner. Dogs don't completely recover from incidents like this.

I was the third owner (that I know of) for my last dog. She never "fit in" with her last owners. My daughter and I went to their home, met the dog, petted her and talked to her. She climbed right into our car and never looked back. But she was always distressed about being left alone.

I'm the third owner of the dog I have now. Her original owner was a young woman in the Navy, but couldn't keep the dog when she was shipped overseas. The dog was shipped several states away to her parents, but they travelled a lot and the poor animal lived in a kennel more than a home. By the time I got her, she was a nervous wreck.

For the first year I had her she still had to "nose-up" to every 5'5" woman with long dark hair to check if that was her original "Mommy". After being parted from her owner for two and a half years, the little dog was still looking.

It took a little over a year for my little dog to become really comfortable and confident in her new home. For the first six months, she was so wild, I wasn't sure I could keep her. Although she likes riding in the car, she still whimpers with anxiety when the ride lasts more than a few minutes. She's now a very happy and fun little dog and a great family pet. But it took a lot of patience and love for her to become secure.

I truly hope that old shepard will find his lifelong friend.

35 posted on 09/25/2005 5:05:10 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVgirl
I'm so glad you posted that because I've recently acquired a little dog whose "mommy" died. She lived with relatives of the woman for six months, mostly in her kennel because they had a large dog that didn't get along with her. She is very loving, but when I leave her and then come back she barks and barks at me, I mean she looks me in the eye and gives me what for. I now think she is suffering from separation anxiety and I'll try to be more affectionate when I come home (altho I'm pretty affectionate with her now).
36 posted on 09/25/2005 5:45:46 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Salamander
They're not gonna take the old man's side when he can offer them nothing that benefits them.

I might disagree with this. Most canine cops are VERY attached to their dogs. They are not just dogs, but partners, and part of their families. They will relate to John.

37 posted on 09/25/2005 6:16:40 AM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal
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To: js1138
I personally can't think of anything that would give me more pleasure than returning a pet to a long time owner. My mother once adopted a stray cat. A year and a half later the original owner spotted it in my mother's yard. They had pictures of the cat as a kitten, complete with its unique markings. They were so happy to have it back.

I remember years ago before I was married how I found a little baby kitten abandoned on the side of the road while working. It was snow white all over, cute as can be. I took it home and took care of it. One day, a few short weeks later, I noticed it was missing from my fenced in yard. I looked and looked for it, but never found it.

A couple or so months later, the following summer, I was mowing my grass, and I stopped to talk by the fence with the homeowner that lived behind me. While I was talking with her, her little daughter, maybe 3 years old, came running up behind her and guessed who followed her, the little kitten I had 'lost'. It was definitely 'my' kitten. It just showed up one day in their yard. Apparently it had wandered over to their house from my yard a few months previous, and the family adopted it, not knowing from where it came from.

Well, I kept my mouth shut, because as I stood there looking at the little girl playing with the kitten, I knew that this little girl and her family could give that kitten a lot more love and attention than I could, and that made me happy.

38 posted on 09/25/2005 6:28:11 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Former Military Chick

Methinks she had better watch out. Angry dog lovers are everywhere.


39 posted on 09/25/2005 6:46:50 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: DoughtyOne
The police should take custody of the dog and return it to it's long term owner.

I hope that it's just your sadness at the situation that's making you say that, and that you really don't mean it...

The police enforce the law. It appears that this evil, vile creature who's keeping the dog has done nothing that violates the law.

Do you really want to police to sieze the property of one person and give it to another, when the law has not been broken?

Mark

40 posted on 09/25/2005 7:14:48 AM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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