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To: NYer

Can the Church afford to lose 30-50% of new priests?


10 posted on 09/24/2005 1:46:10 PM PDT by jess35
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Can the Church afford to lose 30-50% of new priests?

Is there a reliable source for those numbers? I keep hearing the same numbers, but they are never sourced.

15 posted on 09/24/2005 1:50:15 PM PDT by TChad
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Can the Church afford to lose 30-50% of new priests?

I thin the question is actually: Can the Church afford NOT to loose the homosexual priests. God always has a plan. It works better if we follow His Word. Will a church truly prosper is 30-50% of it's leadership actively shun God's Word?

28 posted on 09/24/2005 2:07:28 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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I'm inclined to just say that's a pretty stupid question, but instead I'll ask what all these queer priests have already cost everybody - their victims, the Catholic faithful, the scandalized outsiders? Then, after all that, comes the huge sums of money these perverts have forced us to pay out.


29 posted on 09/24/2005 2:12:10 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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Can the Church afford to lose 30-50% of new priests?

What's your source for that statistic?

32 posted on 09/24/2005 2:24:15 PM PDT by NYer
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You asked, "Can the Church afford to lose 30-50% of new priests?"

I think a case could be made for the contrary assumption: it is the prevalence of a "gay culture" in the seminaries which has driven away literally thousands of normal young men who otherwise would have pursued a vocation to the priesthood.

When the seminaries become unambiguously hospitable to normal, masculine, normally-oriented men, they will attract and retain many more suitable candidates for the priesthood.

This can only lead to more and better priests. God bless the Pope.

55 posted on 09/24/2005 5:32:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (He's XVI --- he's beautiful --- and he's mine.)
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Yes. I think it's a very good anticipation that homosexuals will not be admitted to seminaries and therefore ordained as Priests, and that to lose whatever percentage, if they are homosexuals, is a very good improvement.


62 posted on 09/24/2005 7:51:22 PM PDT by BIRDS
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Can the Church afford to lose 30-50% of new priests?

If the Church found they employed doctors that performed abortions on the side -the Church would do without them... The Church is truth not compromise -those that want compromise can check out the many protestant flavors and find one that tickles thier fancy...

As has been written regarding the Church -The Gates of Hell Shall Not Prevail Against It

-the sky not only is not falling it will not fall... The Church does not need disordered clergy that are predisposed to intrinsically evil activities...

78 posted on 09/24/2005 10:06:49 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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"Can the Church afford to lose 30-50% of new priests?"

Could the nation of Israel have survived if they were just an ordinary people?

How is it that the celibate priesthood of the Roman Catholic Rite has not only survived, but grown exponentially faster and larger than the other Rites?

How is it that Japan, Korea, Cambodia, and China can have surviving and thriving Catholic Communities for decades and even centuries without the presence of a Roman Catholic priest to regularly give the Sacraments?

To exemplify God's Power, read Judges Chapters 6 & 7, but especially 7 to see how God demonstrates His power over His enemies.

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/judges/judges7.htm


91 posted on 09/25/2005 7:59:08 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child...at conception.)
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To: jess35

Where is this 30-35% nonsense ?

And besides, how many good Christian men have entered seminaries to love and serve the Lord, found instead a sodomite bathhouse with crosses, and left in disgust ?

A Church without moral authority, that holds to no principle but popularity and expediency will end up like the Episcopalians. A Church that stands firm on the word of God will never have any shortage of priests.


95 posted on 09/25/2005 2:26:25 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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Can the Church afford to lose 30-50% of new priests?

As has been noted many times on this forum (and elsewhere), orthodoxy begets vocations. Even now, it is the case that the seminaries with a reputation for doctrinal orthodoxy and for not accepting poofters are also full, and in some cases expanding their facilities so that they can accept more students. Running out the queers, far from causing a shortage of priests, is clearly part of the solution to the current shortage of priests. Indeed, it could be reasonably argued that allowing the queers to take over many seminaries was a cause of the priest shortage.

119 posted on 09/26/2005 2:41:16 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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