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Ban on Same-Sex Attraction & Sexual Activity Could Be Crucial Issue for Catholics' Attitudes
NY Times ^ | September 24, 2005 | By PETER STEINFELS

Posted on 09/24/2005 1:33:27 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 09/24/2005 1:33:28 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

And how many faithful Catholics are on the NY Times editorial board?


2 posted on 09/24/2005 1:35:47 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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Does anyone know if the Evangelical Churches ban gay men from their seminaries? Or is this 'unique' to the Catholic, and I would imagine the Orthodox Churches. If so, why isnt' the NYT taking them to task?

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3 posted on 09/24/2005 1:36:20 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

How do they propose to measure and regulate 'same-sex attraction' exactly?


4 posted on 09/24/2005 1:39:06 PM PDT by Canard
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It's about time...at least the panzer pontiff will bring the seminaries back to where they need to be regarding this whole, wretched matter. And the NYT usual banter that it might cause further rifts as did the contraception issue did in the past; big difference there obviously.

The Church needs to not only prevent the ordination of homosexuals but also defrock those that are known. Sorry, it's better to err on the side of safety then take a chance.

How many "dry" (i.e., non-practicing) homosexuals do you know? I know none, however, I suspect there's not many to begin with, given it is central to their lifestyle to do the deed so to speak.


5 posted on 09/24/2005 1:39:19 PM PDT by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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Evangelicals ban anyone indicating a proclivity toward homosexuality from participating in any form of leadership (most give personality tests, ask lots of questions and run background checks on prospects); answer to second question - "Why isn't the NYT taking them to task?" - they do but in a much more pernicious way as a number of so-called Catholics work at NYT but they most likely would never hire an evangelical protestant.
6 posted on 09/24/2005 1:40:46 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: NYer
Is the Church actually banning "same sex-attraction" or is that just an agenda headline for slamming on Catholics?
7 posted on 09/24/2005 1:43:36 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (If you snit at the hand that feeds you, you're probably a leftist.)
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To: bnelson44

Probably between zero and none;)


8 posted on 09/24/2005 1:43:36 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Canard

By gazing into each person's soul...


9 posted on 09/24/2005 1:45:40 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: NYer

Can the Church afford to lose 30-50% of new priests?


10 posted on 09/24/2005 1:46:10 PM PDT by jess35
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How do they propose to measure and regulate 'same-sex attraction' exactly?

I'm thinking it would be the same way that they regulate "human-animal-sex attraction."

To start, don't put up the poster of Lassie, or Mr. Ed's, crotch next to the Coors Girls in your room. If you are a guy, don't brag publicly about how much you want to drive the dirt road with Tom Cuise. Pretty simple rules.

11 posted on 09/24/2005 1:46:28 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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Uh huh. And the New York Times says its the beginning of the end of the Catholic Church. No wonder they're upset Pope Benedict isn't being culturally trendy!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
12 posted on 09/24/2005 1:47:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

I was assuming that it would already be uncommon for any priests who had unacted upon homosexual urges to have gay pin ups on their walls, but who knows!


13 posted on 09/24/2005 1:49:55 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Is the Church actually banning "same sex-attraction" or is that just an agenda headline for slamming on Catholics?

We don't know yet. The document has not come out. The scuttlebutt (and that is all it is now) is that anyone who has engaged in homosexual activity, or has strong homosexual inclinations, would be best not to apply to a seminary and not to be accepted into a seminary. Even homosexuals who have been celibate for 10 or more years should not be admitted to seminaries if they have lived a homosexual lifestyle. But we don't know

14 posted on 09/24/2005 1:50:12 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: jess35
Can the Church afford to lose 30-50% of new priests?

Is there a reliable source for those numbers? I keep hearing the same numbers, but they are never sourced.

15 posted on 09/24/2005 1:50:15 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Is the Church actually banning "same sex-attraction" or is that just an agenda headline for slamming on Catholics?

Of course the N.Y. Times words it to make the church look bad. The church is simply following the Bible in regard to homosexuality. A headline without bias would simply be Church, Based On God's Word, To Ban Homosexual Priests.

16 posted on 09/24/2005 1:50:17 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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I'm not Catholic, but it seems that homosexuals are less likely to maintain celibacy, than heterosexuals. If you get into thinking about all of this, you may form all sorts of politically incorrect conclusions, and we sure don't want to risk that, do we?
One of these days, when I can afford some really decent Sour Mash, I will write an essay on my theory, that homosexuality is an expression of neotony. If I mispelled that, oh well, what can you expect from a talking Redneck?
It will all come back to what my Daddy told me, "son, if you can't control yourself, someone else Damned sure will".


17 posted on 09/24/2005 1:50:37 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: NYer

Good for the Pope!!!


18 posted on 09/24/2005 1:51:31 PM PDT by pissant
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To: TChad

That number is based upon the estimate that 40% of the current crop of priests are homosexual. There is no factual evidence for this, just 'gut feelings'.


20 posted on 09/24/2005 1:52:59 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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