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Just...WOW. My "first blush" conclusion: the "lesser of two evils" is still evil. Let's hope Phil Gingrey gets his way.

As for survivability of the Republican party, I'm sure that it will survive. Watergate did not destroy the Republicans; Monicagate did not destroy the Democrats. These parties have a way of hanging on...

1 posted on 09/24/2005 9:52:00 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; Angelwood; aristeides; Askel5; ...

PING!

Fight the power!


2 posted on 09/24/2005 9:53:25 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, grow up!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Unfortunately conservativism has been seeping out of the GOP for a very long time.


3 posted on 09/24/2005 9:54:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"The FTB has _refused_ to release its manual to the Congressional Research Service. Note: It's not admitting the truth -- that there is no manual, that there are no standards. It's just saying it won't release it. And the Department of Justice (under which the ATF now operates) is backing up its underlings."


Well if they have any sense they are rapidly putting together such a manual.

And it's traditional to hold such "collapse of the party" stories until they no longer control the White house and both houses of congress.


5 posted on 09/24/2005 9:56:22 AM PDT by gondramB ( A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
ummm ... we don't seem to be the ones in trouble.  2 straight presidential elections won would indicate that.  The bulk of the MSM has tried with Abu Grhaib, Gitmo, Memogate, Katrina and Iraq and still have failed to break apart the party or get Bush impeached.

This is more of a wish than a reality.

6 posted on 09/24/2005 9:56:24 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The Democrats have completely gone psycho.

The Republican party is less screwed up but the leadership is still so bad that they couldn't lead a pack of hungry wolves to fresh meat. By allowing the BATF to abuse their constituents and by constantly floating illegal immigration amnesty schemes, the Republican politicians are killing their party.

12 posted on 09/24/2005 10:04:07 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ( "Sic semper tyrannis." (Your dinosaur is ill.))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The real death of the republican party will occur when the electorate at large finally realizes the GOP are just another cabal of attornies fighting the other cabal of attornies for the American taxpayer's purse strings. Real conservativism died years ago. DNC LLC vs RNC LLC. Which end of the political spectrum would you like to be screwed by today?


14 posted on 09/24/2005 10:05:57 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"destruction of the repubs"


Wishful thinking!


15 posted on 09/24/2005 10:07:32 AM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Do the Republicans know about this? Yes. Of course they do."

They also know about the phony polls, studies, etc., conducted by the Violence Policy Center, but use them anyway to justify their silence on whatever gun law changes the gun-grabbing left wants to push.

21 posted on 09/24/2005 10:41:37 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The current Republican party is run by RINOs. It's our job to throw them out - one by one.

A good start would be to take over townships, villages, small cities and counties - both elected positions and unelected spots such as seats on planning commissions. That's the body of the Republican party, and the head (Washington) can't function without co-operation of the body.

The Republican party should not be dumped; it needs to be taken back from the New York Rockefeller socialists (RINOs).


24 posted on 09/24/2005 11:03:10 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Member of Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Once a politician gets to DC, doesn't matter what he goes in as. He'll come out a prostitute if he/she's not one already.

Let's just have one party - The Prostitution Party - and everybody just try to get what they can get from whoever's there.


25 posted on 09/24/2005 11:06:20 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I can hardly believe the article failed to mention any bill numbers!
There are three pro-gun bills languishing in committee at this time that urgently need our attention, H.R. 1603, H.R. 1703, and H.R. 2088 (with over 50 cosponsors!).

I am posting all the information I have readily available, fall is here, congress is back in session, it's time to get involved and convince congress to PASS these bills!

The bill this article references is H.R. 1603, the "Fairness in firearms testing act".
Sorry, I do not have the full text handy at the moment.
The bill requires ATFE-Tech to video document all test, and to make UNEDITED copies available to the defense if they decide they have a case worthy of prosecution.
The full text can be found at http://www.nfaoa.org

The main effect of the bill would be to force ATFE to tighten up their standards and behave rationally, it would have little or no effect on LEGITIMATE prosecutions!

HR 1703 IH

109th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1703

To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES


April 19, 2005


Mr. PAUL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned



A BILL

To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,



SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.


This Act may be cited as the `Second Amendment Protection Act of 2005'.



SEC. 2. REPEAL OF FEDERAL HARASSMENT PERIOD.


Public Law 103-159 is repealed, and any provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted.



SEC. 3. REPEAL OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL DISTINCTION.


(a) Section 5845(f) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended--


(1) by striking `which the Secretary finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes'; and


(2) by striking `which the owner intends to use solely for sporting purposes'.


(b) Section 921(a)(4)(B) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking `which the Attorney General finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes'.


(c) Section 921(a)(4) of such title is amended in the 2nd sentence by striking `which the owner intends to use solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes'.


(d) Section 921(a)(17)(C) of such title is amended by striking `a projectile which the Attorney General finds is primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes,'.


(e) Section 923(j) of such title is amended by striking `devoted to the collection, competitive use, or other sporting use of firearms in the community'.


(f) Section 922(r) of such title is amended by striking `of this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes'.


(g) Section 925(a)(3) of such title is amended by striking `determined by the Attorney General to be generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes and'.


(h) Section 925(a)(4) of such title is amended by striking `(A) determined by the Attorney General to be generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes, or determined by the Department of Defense to be a type of firearm normally classified as a war souvenir, and (B)'.


(i) Section 925(d)(3) of such title is amended by striking `and is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes'.


(j) Section 925(e)(2) of such title is amended by striking `provided that such handguns are generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes'.


(k) Section 922 of such title is amended in each of subsections (a)(5), (a)(9), and (b)(3) by striking `lawful sporting purposes' and inserting `lawful purposes'.



SEC. 4. EFFECTIVE DATE.


The provisions of this Act shall take effect immediately upon enactment.

H.R. 1703

H.R. 2088
• H.R.2088
• Title: To provide an amnesty period during which veterans and their family members can register certain firearms in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, and for other purposes.
• Sponsor: Rep Gibbons, Jim [NV-2] (introduced 5/4/2005)      Cosponsors (55)
• Latest Major Action: 5/4/2005 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.

• Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Baker, Richard H. [LA-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Barton, Joe [TX-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bradley, Jeb [NH-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Cannon, Chris [UT-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Cramer, Robert E. (Bud), Jr. [AL-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Cunningham, Randy (Duke) [CA-50] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-10] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Emerson, Jo Ann [MO-8] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Feeney, Tom [FL-24] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. [VA-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hefley, Joel [CO-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Herger, Wally [CA-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hostettler, John N. [IN-8] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hunter, Duncan [CA-52] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Kennedy, Mark R. [MN-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep King, Steve [IA-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Kuhl, John R. "Randy", Jr. [NY-29] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Lewis, Ron [KY-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Mollohan, Alan B. [WV-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 5/12/2005
• Rep Otter, C. L. (Butch) [ID-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Pearce, Stevan [NM-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Peterson, John E. [PA-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 5/16/2005
• Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Ross, Mike [AR-4] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Salazar, John T. [CO-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Simpson, Michael K. [ID-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Souder, Mark E. [IN-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Wilson, Joe [SC-2] - 5/4/2005



These are the only two so far to add their names AFTER the bill was introduced!
• Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 5/12/2005
• Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 5/16/2005\

We clearly need to work harder, I am unsure how many sponsors are needed to get this bill out of committee for passage, but 55 is apparently not enough! ('')


31 posted on 09/24/2005 11:28:25 AM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
>Their families have been shattered. It has all been because of accusations and sham trials that belong in Communist China, not the United States of America. We're talking about the decades of abuses committed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF).


33 posted on 09/24/2005 11:30:43 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The sooner those who have wrongly imprisoned are released the better! This is outrageous!


36 posted on 09/24/2005 11:36:53 AM PDT by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I can hardly believe the article failed to mention any bill numbers!
There are three pro-gun bills languishing in committee at this time that urgently need our attention, H.R. 1603, H.R. 1703, and H.R. 2088 (with over 50 cosponsors!).

I am posting all the information I have readily available, fall is here, congress is back in session, it's time to get involved and convince congress to PASS these bills!

The bill this article references is H.R. 1603, the "Fairness in firearms testing act".

Failure to act on these bills may not doom the republican party, but it has certainly weakened my support, forcing me to seriously consider alternate parties!



Fairness in Firearm Testing Act (Introduced in House)


HR 1603 IH

109th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1603

To require the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to make video recordings of the examination and testing of firearms and ammunition, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES


April 13, 2005


Mr. GINGREY introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned



A BILL

To require the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to make video recordings of the examination and testing of firearms and ammunition, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,



SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.


This Act may be cited as the `Fairness in Firearm Testing Act'.


SEC. 2. VIDEO RECORDING OF EXAMINATION AND TESTING OF FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION BY THE BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES.


Section 1111 of the Homeland Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 531) is amended by adding at the end the following:


`(e) Additional Responsibilities Regarding Examination and Testing of Firearms and Ammunition-


`(1) VIDEO RECORDING REQUIRED- The Bureau shall make a video recording of the entire process of the examination and testing by the Bureau of an item for the purpose of determining, pursuant to section 921(a)(3), 922(o), 922(p), or subsection (a)(3), (a)(4), (d), or (e) of section 925 of title 18, United States Code, or section 5845(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, whether the item is a firearm and if so, the type of firearm, or of determining pursuant to section 921(a)(17) of title 18, United States Code, whether the item is ammunition, and shall not edit or erase any recording made pursuant to this paragraph.


`(2) AVAILABILITY-


`(A) TO OWNERS- On request of a person who claims an ownership interest in an item with respect to which a recording is made under paragraph (1), the Bureau shall make available to the person, without charge, a digital video disc that contains a copy of the recording.


`(B) TO DEFENDANTS- The Bureau shall make available to a defendant in a criminal proceeding involving an item with respect to which a recording is made under paragraph (1) a digital video disc that contains a copy of the recording.


`(3) ADMISSIBILITY AS EVIDENCE- An item which the Bureau has determined is a firearm or a type of firearm or ammunition pursuant to any provision of law specified in paragraph (1) shall not be admissible as evidence in any judicial or administrative proceeding unless--


`(A) the Bureau has complied with paragraph (2) with respect to the item; or


`(B) such compliance has been waived, in writing, by the person against whom the item is offered as evidence.'.

The main effect of the bill would be to force ATFE to tighten up their standards and behave rationally, it would have little or no effect on LEGITIMATE prosecutions!


HR 1703 IH

109th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1703

To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES


April 19, 2005


Mr. PAUL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned



A BILL

To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,



SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.


This Act may be cited as the `Second Amendment Protection Act of 2005'.



SEC. 2. REPEAL OF FEDERAL HARASSMENT PERIOD.


Public Law 103-159 is repealed, and any provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted.



SEC. 3. REPEAL OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL DISTINCTION.


(a) Section 5845(f) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended--


(1) by striking `which the Secretary finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes'; and


(2) by striking `which the owner intends to use solely for sporting purposes'.


(b) Section 921(a)(4)(B) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking `which the Attorney General finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes'.


(c) Section 921(a)(4) of such title is amended in the 2nd sentence by striking `which the owner intends to use solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes'.


(d) Section 921(a)(17)(C) of such title is amended by striking `a projectile which the Attorney General finds is primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes,'.


(e) Section 923(j) of such title is amended by striking `devoted to the collection, competitive use, or other sporting use of firearms in the community'.


(f) Section 922(r) of such title is amended by striking `of this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes'.


(g) Section 925(a)(3) of such title is amended by striking `determined by the Attorney General to be generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes and'.


(h) Section 925(a)(4) of such title is amended by striking `(A) determined by the Attorney General to be generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes, or determined by the Department of Defense to be a type of firearm normally classified as a war souvenir, and (B)'.


(i) Section 925(d)(3) of such title is amended by striking `and is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes'.


(j) Section 925(e)(2) of such title is amended by striking `provided that such handguns are generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes'.


(k) Section 922 of such title is amended in each of subsections (a)(5), (a)(9), and (b)(3) by striking `lawful sporting purposes' and inserting `lawful purposes'.



SEC. 4. EFFECTIVE DATE.


The provisions of this Act shall take effect immediately upon enactment.



H.R. 2088
• H.R.2088
• Title: To provide an amnesty period during which veterans and their family members can register certain firearms in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, and for other purposes.
• Sponsor: Rep Gibbons, Jim [NV-2] (introduced 5/4/2005) Cosponsors (55)
• Latest Major Action: 5/4/2005 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.

• Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Baker, Richard H. [LA-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Barton, Joe [TX-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bradley, Jeb [NH-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Cannon, Chris [UT-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Cramer, Robert E. (Bud), Jr. [AL-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Cunningham, Randy (Duke) [CA-50] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-10] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Emerson, Jo Ann [MO-8] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Feeney, Tom [FL-24] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. [VA-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hefley, Joel [CO-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Herger, Wally [CA-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hostettler, John N. [IN-8] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hunter, Duncan [CA-52] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Kennedy, Mark R. [MN-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep King, Steve [IA-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Kuhl, John R. "Randy", Jr. [NY-29] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Lewis, Ron [KY-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Mollohan, Alan B. [WV-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 5/12/2005
• Rep Otter, C. L. (Butch) [ID-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Pearce, Stevan [NM-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Peterson, John E. [PA-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 5/16/2005
• Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Ross, Mike [AR-4] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Salazar, John T. [CO-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Simpson, Michael K. [ID-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Souder, Mark E. [IN-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Wilson, Joe [SC-2] - 5/4/2005



These are the only two so far to add their names AFTER the bill was introduced!
• Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 5/12/2005
• Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 5/16/2005\

We clearly need to work harder, I am unsure how many sponsors are needed to get this bill out of committee for passage, but 55 is apparently not enough! ('')


41 posted on 09/24/2005 11:55:46 AM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Nice try Jewish Dudes but you are a bit off. We are stronger now then ever, so slowly put down the New York Times and step away from your computer.
We will pick up seats in the next two cycles. We will keep the WH and we will have the Supreme Court. "End of the Republican Party"? My ass.


61 posted on 09/25/2005 9:53:46 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (The quisling ratmedia: always eager to remind us of why we hate them.)
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To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; beckysueb; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
63 posted on 09/25/2005 2:22:48 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BUMP


87 posted on 09/26/2005 12:34:21 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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