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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Then why did you choose to invent people other than Noah and his family as having survived the Flood? That is an addition to Genesis.

I did not invent anything.... Genesis 7:15 And they went in unto Noah into the Ark, two and two of ALL FLESH, wherein is the breath of life.

This breath of life is SOUL, the very same word use to described what it was that made The Adam a living being, a SOUL, which evolutionists ignore.


This is nonsense. It's the same as, *I can't answer your questions, so I will just say that you are not supposed to understand."

I did not pen it only know that it was Written Matthew 13:14-15 comes from Isaiah 6:9-10. Reason why no man/woman can have authority to 'damn' another to .ell.

"Your Mind, your feelings, your emotions, are not evidence. Or an argument. Lots of people think their subjective mental states have a better *reality* than objective evidence. A good number of them are in mental institutions.
Why should anybody take YOUR feelings as evidence over the evidence of their own eyes?"

I have not told you what you must believe, you are telling me that I must believe evolution. The WORD stands all on its own with our without me, it is not about what I believe it is what is Written.

Depending upon who is in the position of deciding sanity and insanity are the guard rails of institutions, and you are sure sounding a whole lot like the religionists who declared any and all who fell out of their grace be removed via the acceptable method of the day.



"Actually, biology has shown that the category of *race* has no scientific meaning with humans. The usual separations we make (white, black, Asian, and so on...) are very superficial. Other *races* could just as easily be formed using other traits other than skin color. Races based on blood markers can be made; these show a great deal of overlap with the races we are familiar with. DNA shows we are all descended from a common ancestor."


Well considering that we are alll made in the same form, in the same "IMAGE", and it is characteristics that are gleaned from tiny swabs of DNA that are identifiers, I would say you are not being quite truthful in your attempts to describe what DNA tells.

God said what he formed and created was GOOD, man especially via old Darwin called it survival of the fittest. Anybody with half a brain, considering who old Darwin was and where he came from cannot ignore what is at base of his theorizing about who was most "fit".

"Just because Genesis makes a mistake, doesn't mean you can just invent other people to fill in Genesis' errors. If these other people were also created apart from Adam, then they wouldn't have eaten of the forbidden fruit and would not have sinned. Adam and Eve's sin would not be theirs. They would be Unfallen children of God. Unless you wish to write a *Fall* story for them too, just like you added to Genesis and created other people surviving with Noah and his family. Maybe you can get your version of Genesis published."

Yes and it is written that not all shall have understanding, for their own protection. I made up nobody, read directly what is Written, added nothing, took nothing away and never even got the the parts and places where the words use have different meanings in the original.


"Logic is not making stuff up to fill in the gaps. You made stuff up."

PROVE IT, find yourself one who can actually read what was written in the original Hebrew writing and have him/her tell you what is actually written in Genesis, and by the way, their mouth to mouth traditions do not fit with what is written. Then come back and tell me I made anything up.

"It was the physical evidence that led Darwin. Something you are woefully ignorant of."

Oh you mean an island I will now call "bottleneck" isle.
256 posted on 09/25/2005 12:59:35 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
"I did not invent anything"

Yes you did. You made up the extra people who you claim also survived the Flood with Noah and his family. I think you should name your new book *Genesis- The Untold Story*

"This breath of life is SOUL, the very same word use to described what it was that made The Adam a living being, a SOUL, which evolutionists ignore."

That's nice but it doesn't speak to why you decided to add to Genesis with new people. BTW, science ignores the soul because there is no way to test for or against it. Science (and evolution) does NOT say that souls don't exist. It just says there is no known soul-test, no way to observe a soul.

" I have not told you what you must believe, you are telling me that I must believe evolution."

We are both trying to convince the other they are right. I am using evidence and logic, you are using your feelings and a very hit or miss reading of the Bible (when you don't invent people in it).

"Depending upon who is in the position of deciding sanity and insanity are the guard rails of institutions, and you are sure sounding a whole lot like the religionists who declared any and all who fell out of their grace be removed via the acceptable method of the day."

No I am not. I am defending the use of reason against mystical subjectivism. You claim that evolution is a lie and evolutionists are trying to overthrow God but all you have as evidence is your feelings and your very subjective interpretation of the Bible. I never said you were insane.

"Well considering that we are alll made in the same form, in the same "IMAGE", and it is characteristics that are gleaned from tiny swabs of DNA that are identifiers, I would say you are not being quite truthful in your attempts to describe what DNA tells."

I am quite sure I was being truthful, but you seem to have no idea what I meant. You were calling for a separate creation for different races, and I was showing that what we consider races is arbitrary from a biological standpoint. You can pick a number of different traits as the basis for a race and they will all be different, though there will be overlaps with what we call race from skin color. As people intermix more and more, these distinctions will just disappear.

"God said what he formed and created was GOOD, man especially via old Darwin called it survival of the fittest. Anybody with half a brain, considering who old Darwin was and where he came from cannot ignore what is at base of his theorizing about who was most "fit"."

*Old Darwin* considered those organisms which survive long enough to reproduce offspring the *most fit*; nothing more, nothing less. You are letting your feelings distort your judgment. He had no ulterior motives.

" Yes and it is written that not all shall have understanding, for their own protection."

Again, when you have no answer to a question, you just throw a *Well, you weren't supposed to know anyway* at me. Did you ever think it may have been YOU who lacks the understanding?

"I made up nobody, read directly what is Written, added nothing, took nothing away and never even got the the parts and places where the words use have different meanings in the original."

Except for the people you made up, and your ignoring the fact that Genesis says the whole earth was covered and only Noah and his family survived. Other than that... :)

"PROVE IT, find yourself one who can actually read what was written in the original Hebrew writing and have him/her tell you what is actually written in Genesis, and by the way, their mouth to mouth traditions do not fit with what is written. Then come back and tell me I made anything up."

So you are admitting you have no idea what Genesis really said. Very interesting.

" Oh you mean an island I will now call "bottleneck" isle."

LOL You are showing once again you had no clue what a genetic bottleneck is. It has nothing to do with an island. Nor does it have anything to do with Darwin. It is a fact of genetics. If you start a population with only 2 individuals (2 of each kind) that is called a bottleneck (it doesn't have to be just 2, it can be dozens even). There isn't enough genetic diversity in such a tiny population to overcome the crippling affects of inbreeding that would occur. There is no way that the life we see on earth could have sprung from just two of each kind. They would have died out long ago. *Bottleneck isle* lol
258 posted on 09/25/2005 1:41:03 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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