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"I did not invent anything"

Yes you did. You made up the extra people who you claim also survived the Flood with Noah and his family. I think you should name your new book *Genesis- The Untold Story*

"This breath of life is SOUL, the very same word use to described what it was that made The Adam a living being, a SOUL, which evolutionists ignore."

That's nice but it doesn't speak to why you decided to add to Genesis with new people. BTW, science ignores the soul because there is no way to test for or against it. Science (and evolution) does NOT say that souls don't exist. It just says there is no known soul-test, no way to observe a soul.

" I have not told you what you must believe, you are telling me that I must believe evolution."

We are both trying to convince the other they are right. I am using evidence and logic, you are using your feelings and a very hit or miss reading of the Bible (when you don't invent people in it).

"Depending upon who is in the position of deciding sanity and insanity are the guard rails of institutions, and you are sure sounding a whole lot like the religionists who declared any and all who fell out of their grace be removed via the acceptable method of the day."

No I am not. I am defending the use of reason against mystical subjectivism. You claim that evolution is a lie and evolutionists are trying to overthrow God but all you have as evidence is your feelings and your very subjective interpretation of the Bible. I never said you were insane.

"Well considering that we are alll made in the same form, in the same "IMAGE", and it is characteristics that are gleaned from tiny swabs of DNA that are identifiers, I would say you are not being quite truthful in your attempts to describe what DNA tells."

I am quite sure I was being truthful, but you seem to have no idea what I meant. You were calling for a separate creation for different races, and I was showing that what we consider races is arbitrary from a biological standpoint. You can pick a number of different traits as the basis for a race and they will all be different, though there will be overlaps with what we call race from skin color. As people intermix more and more, these distinctions will just disappear.

"God said what he formed and created was GOOD, man especially via old Darwin called it survival of the fittest. Anybody with half a brain, considering who old Darwin was and where he came from cannot ignore what is at base of his theorizing about who was most "fit"."

*Old Darwin* considered those organisms which survive long enough to reproduce offspring the *most fit*; nothing more, nothing less. You are letting your feelings distort your judgment. He had no ulterior motives.

" Yes and it is written that not all shall have understanding, for their own protection."

Again, when you have no answer to a question, you just throw a *Well, you weren't supposed to know anyway* at me. Did you ever think it may have been YOU who lacks the understanding?

"I made up nobody, read directly what is Written, added nothing, took nothing away and never even got the the parts and places where the words use have different meanings in the original."

Except for the people you made up, and your ignoring the fact that Genesis says the whole earth was covered and only Noah and his family survived. Other than that... :)

"PROVE IT, find yourself one who can actually read what was written in the original Hebrew writing and have him/her tell you what is actually written in Genesis, and by the way, their mouth to mouth traditions do not fit with what is written. Then come back and tell me I made anything up."

So you are admitting you have no idea what Genesis really said. Very interesting.

" Oh you mean an island I will now call "bottleneck" isle."

LOL You are showing once again you had no clue what a genetic bottleneck is. It has nothing to do with an island. Nor does it have anything to do with Darwin. It is a fact of genetics. If you start a population with only 2 individuals (2 of each kind) that is called a bottleneck (it doesn't have to be just 2, it can be dozens even). There isn't enough genetic diversity in such a tiny population to overcome the crippling affects of inbreeding that would occur. There is no way that the life we see on earth could have sprung from just two of each kind. They would have died out long ago. *Bottleneck isle* lol

"Yes you did. You made up the extra people who you claim also survived the Flood with Noah and his family. I think you should name your new book *Genesis- The Untold Story*"

Wrong, I gave you the scripture that tells about who were taken on that Ark. You have a reading comprehension problem, Genesis 7:15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of ALL FLESH, wherein is the breath of life. Sorry only a blind, sottish mind can ignore these words.

"That's nice but it doesn't speak to why you decided to add to Genesis with new people. BTW, science ignores the soul because there is no way to test for or against it. Science (and evolution) does NOT say that souls don't exist. It just says there is no known soul-test, no way to observe a soul."

ADDDDDD WHAT EXACTLY. The words of Genesis are all I used, and what is described are two different days of creation. Well golly gee, science hasn't figured out how to observe a soul. Look in the mirror.

"We are both trying to convince the other they are right. I am using evidence and logic, you are using your feelings and a very hit or miss reading of the Bible (when you don't invent people in it)."

Well from this point forward I am not trying to convince you of anything. Guess you might call it a seed of truth and it is up to you and the Heavenly Father if that soil your brain is fertile ground. Parable of the Sower.

"No I am not. I am defending the use of reason against mystical subjectivism. You claim that evolution is a lie and evolutionists are trying to overthrow God but all you have as evidence is your feelings and your very subjective interpretation of the Bible. I never said you were insane."

I am not the holder and planter of mystical 'subjectivism'. That "hot" bowl of primordial soup is the bed of mystical 'subjectivism'. No evolutionists are not going to overthrow God, reject him, yes they are, but that is NOT a new thing, had you understanding you would find it written that flesh man's purpose is as result of one who rebelled and attempted to overthrow God and a third of God's children, called Sons of God followed that one. Just a replay in the flesh going on again.

"I am quite sure I was being truthful, but you seem to have no idea what I meant. You were calling for a separate creation for different races, and I was showing that what we consider races is arbitrary from a biological standpoint. You can pick a number of different traits as the basis for a race and they will all be different, though there will be overlaps with what we call race from skin color. As people intermix more and more, these distinctions will just disappear."

Ah well now two different days of creation described, two different purposes given, and the story turns out about the seed line to Christ, whom it is that is the key for all to gain salvation. Sadly there are people who do indeed seek to claim some are more fit than others based upon their races. Darwin himself promoted that theory. Now the Heavenly Father is pure in His judgment, very unlike we in the flesh and He will ultimately judge and there won't be anybody going before Him without restoration of full memory and opportunity to choose after instruction is given.

A person who has never had the opportunity to be taught Christ is NOT held accountable on the same standard as those who with opportunity turned their backs.

"Again, when you have no answer to a question, you just throw a *Well, you weren't supposed to know anyway* at me. Did you ever think it may have been YOU who lacks the understanding?"

What possible words can I say to you, I quote you verbatim what is written and you accuse me of adding, I can't even begin to explain what you are missing because you will not accept what foundation is given. So what other possible explanation can I possibly use. I show you two different days of creation written, the differences, I tell you what is written and you just plainly do not have the mind to accept.

It is not a non-answer, it is the only answer cause you are a cement head.

"So you are admitting you have no idea what Genesis really said. Very interesting."

Actually what I am telling you is that you would be SHOCKED, red faced upon learning what is actually said, since you reject what is pointed out to you, thought maybe one who is fluent in the original Hebrew could better than I point out to you what is actually written. I am comfortable with what understanding I have and I can look up words from the KJV in the Strongs to learn what meanings are hidden. Now I do keep studying because I know that I do not have full understanding, no human flesh being can. At least I have a foundation and do not have to follow silly man's traditions or another whole new path.

I know it has nothing to do with an island, but that is the place where old Darwin got his dark ideas.