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Top Dems leave as protest nears ("Fear is driving RATS.")
Charlotte Observer ^ | 9/23/05 | STEVEN THOMMA

Posted on 09/23/2005 3:04:14 PM PDT by Libloather

Top Dems leave as protest nears
Party split between anti-war activists and prominent critics
STEVEN THOMMA
Knight Ridder
Posted on Fri, Sep. 23, 2005

WASHINGTON - As the anti-war movement arrives in Washington this weekend, many Democrats are leaving.

Nationally known Democratic war critics, including Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, and Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, Russell Feingold of Wisconsin and John Kerry of Massachusetts, won't attend what sponsors say will be a big anti-war rally Saturday in Washington.

**SNIP**

En route to Washington for the rally, anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan protested outside Clinton's New York office. "She knows that the war is a lie, but she is waiting for the right time to say it," Sheehan said. "You say it or you are losing your job."

Spokesmen for the Democrats who are skipping the anti-war event all said they had schedule conflicts. But some leading anti-war activists aren't buying it.

"There are a lot of people here who are wondering, where are the Democrats?" said Tom Andrews, a former Democratic House member from Maine who's now the national director of Win Without War.

"The Democratic Party has an identity crisis on this issue. We need voices. We need leadership," Andrews said. "But fear is driving them."

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; chairmandean; cindysheehan; clinton; cutandrunrats; dems; driving; fear; fearfuldems; herdingrats; hillary; houserats; kerry; leave; lefties; ll; nears; protest; rats; senaterats; top
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To: Bostton1
LoL, They are all leaving and this is their political base. What are thy embarrassed by a few communists and radicals LoL.

It's as if hurricane Rita was about to hit DC...

21 posted on 09/23/2005 3:36:19 PM PDT by Libloather (Educating Murrymom - one post at a time...)
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To: Libloather

I knew Cindy wasnt too bright , but threatening Hillary is suicidal.


22 posted on 09/23/2005 3:38:19 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: sgtbono2002; Bostton1
I knew Cindy wasn't too bright , but threatening Hillary is suicidal.

Hurricane Sheehan? RUN!

23 posted on 09/23/2005 3:39:38 PM PDT by Libloather (Educating Murrymom - one post at a time...)
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They are liars and cowards. I encourage all Democrats to go to this rally and sream at the top of their lungs in front of cameras.

Go on Dems show em your stuff, don't be afraid to show your feelings.


24 posted on 09/23/2005 3:48:44 PM PDT by ScarletFire
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To: Libloather

Kinda looks like the '68 Dem Convention in Chicago. The party held together after that, but only because it accommodated the radicals and moved further to the left and there was a willingness in the general population to try some of these "new" ideas.

Now the ideas have been shown to be failures and the public is in no mood for further experimentation -- so they can't go much farther left without crossing the line of pure marginalization. This is the split we've been predicting and it's no longer just a hairline fracture.

Che Guevara or Zell Miller -- which will it be, donkeys? You can't pretend to be both anymore because neither faction is buying it anymore...


25 posted on 09/23/2005 3:50:22 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (Hating Bush does not count as a strategy for defeating Islamic terrorism.)
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To: Libloather

bookmaring.


26 posted on 09/23/2005 3:51:21 PM PDT by TheSarce (The Silent Majority is finding its voice. It goes to ELEVEN!)
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To: Libloather

My husband and I nearly gagged today- on TV was an ad by the "gold star families for peace" or "mothers" or whatever the heck their name is- featuring several mothers/wives of soldiers killed in Iraq. Saying things like 'we support the troops but not a war for your mistake' 'you(Bush) lied' 'no WMD in Iraq''no connection to 9-11''what am I going to tell my baby his father died for' etc etc.
I really wish I would win the dang lottery or something, because I'd put out a national tv and print ad campaign and Fisk their freeking anti-American talking points right down the toilet.


27 posted on 09/23/2005 3:54:09 PM PDT by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: Libloather

You might just say that all those dems who are leaving will be running in '08'.


28 posted on 09/23/2005 3:54:35 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Libloather
John Effin' Kerry not up for a good ol' anti-American war protest?

Maybe he can borrow someone's Iraq medals to throw over the fence of the Capitol?

29 posted on 09/23/2005 3:57:30 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: TheSarce
...bookmaring.

If caught, you could go to jail for that - no?

30 posted on 09/23/2005 3:57:44 PM PDT by Libloather (Educating Murrymom - one post at a time...)
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To: Monti Cello

Toonces the Driving Cat?


31 posted on 09/23/2005 3:59:08 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: OldFriend

I do not believe that is the case.

They cheerfuly accept their votes, but their hearts are intent on increasing their own power, and feathering their own nests.


32 posted on 09/23/2005 4:01:59 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: visualops
Saying things like 'we support the troops but not a war for your mistake' 'you(Bush) lied' 'no WMD in Iraq''no connection to 9-11''what am I going to tell my baby his father died for' etc etc.

If you can't stomach any more, turn away from C-Span for the next few days. I fully expect that - plus some. I'm looking for the 'over the top' comments. There should be plenty.

33 posted on 09/23/2005 4:05:01 PM PDT by Libloather (Educating Murrymom - one post at a time...)
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To: Libloather

The extreme left antiwar position is the political kiss of death for anyone who cares about re-election.

Today, I heard a normally quiet guy, who never talks politics, say disgustedly that dems are now blaming President Bush for Hurricane Rita. He was in his 60s. A teen who overheard him said, "Democrats think people believe that *bleep*." Both were strangers to each other.

I was surprised, because I have NEVER heard any politics from either of them before, and I've never discussed my position.

I'm glad. From this exchange and others I've overheard, the dems have overplayed their hand badly...even the dems holding the so-called moderate position are easily identified as "old hippies" who are phony as 3 dollar bills.

Frankly, I find that encouraging.


34 posted on 09/23/2005 4:06:21 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Toonces Video
35 posted on 09/23/2005 4:07:29 PM PDT by DocRock (Osama said, "We love death, the U.S. loves life, that is the main difference between us.")
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To: Judith Anne
I'm glad. From this exchange and others I've overheard, the dems have overplayed their hand badly...even the dems holding the so-called moderate position are easily identified as "old hippies" who are phony as 3 dollar bills.

WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Members of the black leadership network Project 21 are demanding that the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) and Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) join with them in condemning remarks made by CBC member Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) in which he called President George W. Bush "our Bull Conner," referring to the 1960s segregationist icon.

From the web -

When Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act during his own administration, he faced little resistance because of the recent, widely televised "Bloody Sunday" incident, in which peaceful civil rights demonstrators in Selma, Alabama had dogs sicced and fire hoses turned on them by police commissioner Eugene "Bull" Conner, a Democrat, who was enforcing Democrat Governor George Wallace's order forbidding the protesters to march. Either out of disgust with what they'd seen, or else out of an acknowledgment of the changing attitudes of their constituents, Southern Democrats voted in favor of the Act in almost the same overwhelming numbers that Republicans did.

36 posted on 09/23/2005 4:21:25 PM PDT by Libloather (Educating Murrymom - one post at a time...)
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To: Tom Bombadil

I might have a slight bit of respect for these Dems if they appeared with Sheehan. However, I have more respect for her than I have for them and it's not much.


37 posted on 09/23/2005 4:21:55 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: Cyber Liberty
Toonces the Driving Cat?

Yes, and add Viking Kitties pulling alongside in a shiny late-model Hummer with hood-mounted machine guns.

38 posted on 09/23/2005 4:23:04 PM PDT by Monti Cello
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To: Libloather
The leftist rag the Village Voice has reported that this weekend, between rallies at the White House sponsored by United for Peace and Justice and International ANSWER,
Sheehan will make a side trip to share her concerns and keen foreign policy insights with the likely 2008 Democratic presidential candidate.


"...Hillary’s decision comes after Sheehan told the press she was “so frustrated” with the Democratic all-star for not endorsing immediate, unilateral withdrawal from Iraq.

At a rally on Sunday, Sheehan reassured her supporters Hillary is “waiting for the best political moment to say” she favors the pullout, warning Hillary in no uncertain terms: “You say it, or you’re losing your job.”

Sheehan’s fiery rhetoric represents a new tactic: targeting prominent Democrats for defeat if they do not parrot her solution to Iraq. “It’s time for them to step up and be the opposition party,” Sheehan said. Learning the lessons of Vietnam, Sheehan forecasts, “This war is not going to end unless the Democrats are on board with us...”


sindee! hanoi jane and I are so proud
of you and fat boy!

your attacks on hitlery,
to help me be Prez in 08,
was brillant on my part!


(mommy heinz said I could
and gave me my allowance!)
(and unkle george soris gave me money too!
he hates that nasty ol hitlery)

you two are good lil commies!



39 posted on 09/23/2005 4:24:10 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget the traitors who sold out to the commies!)
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To: Libloather

Kerry...Kerry...hmm...the name is familiar. Was he in Vietnam or something?


40 posted on 09/23/2005 4:24:27 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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