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7 Airbus Jets Had Landing Gear Trouble
LaTimes.Com ^ | September 23, 2005 | Jennifer Oldham and Megan Garvey, Times Staff Writers

Posted on 09/23/2005 1:46:47 AM PDT by konaice

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To: Prophet in the wilderness

It's just common sense. The "fail-safe" position is one that allows the aircraft to land safely.


41 posted on 09/23/2005 9:04:57 AM PDT by Snardius
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To: GovernmentShrinker

No, just the 737's that had stuck rudders which caused a few crashes.

No fatalities due to this gear problem, Airbus sent out a directive for a fix a few years ago, if the airlines didn't do the fix, its their fault.


42 posted on 09/23/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: konaice
"....the front landing gear of an Airbus jet has locked at a 90-degree angle.."

Just as an aside, the Boeing design of nosegear will not allow this to happen. Some cams internal to the nosegear oleo strut center the nosewheels as the strut extends on takeoff and do not allow a steering input until the strut is again compressed on the ground.

43 posted on 09/23/2005 10:22:18 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: DocH
When shopping for aircraft, BUY AMERICAN. F**K the euroweenies.

Does this mean you won't fly Boeing?

44 posted on 09/23/2005 10:27:02 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I remember the 737 rudder redesign. Manufacturing engineers had to work OT for months to update the drawings to satisfy the FAA under threat of grounding the fleet. The FAA doesn't give Boeing any slack. How can Airbus get away with that design flaw? Does it really need to take a crash before any action is taken?


45 posted on 09/23/2005 5:02:49 PM PDT by phantomworker (It is not the answer that enlightens, but the question.)
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To: Lokibob
When is the last time you got food...real food on an airplane?....your right the odds are small...they don't serve "food" any more...just dog biscuits...
46 posted on 09/23/2005 5:06:30 PM PDT by Hotdog
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To: Central Scrutiniser
I would bet that the highest percentage of parts for Boeing, and other American a/c, come from the US.

At least your list shows that most of the contributing countries are our real allies in the War On Terror.

I'll just have to hold my nose as I strut through that french door.

BTW, why does you list have all countries or states, and then "Wichita"?

47 posted on 09/23/2005 5:09:32 PM PDT by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

I was really disappointed when I heard they gave away the wing ---a core compentency. Boeing makes only one part now, the empennage?

Obviously, the real art is in snapping the pieces together so they don't fall apart.


48 posted on 09/23/2005 5:13:19 PM PDT by phantomworker (It is not the answer that enlightens, but the question.)
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To: DocH

Ask Boeing, its their chart.

Airbus makes good planes, so does Boeing, but silly nationalistic rants against the French and hating an airplane because of it are...well...silly.


49 posted on 09/23/2005 5:13:21 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: phantomworker
I remember the 737 rudder redesign.

I remember back in March an A310's rudder breaking clean off. Fortunately, the plane landed safely. Has a redesign been ordered?

I remember in November 2001 an A300 fin breaking clean off. 265 people died. The FAA chose to blame the pilots.

The FAA doesn't give Boeing any slack.

No kidding.

50 posted on 09/23/2005 5:27:01 PM PDT by magellan ( by)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Understand your point, but whatever happened to "Buy American" and keep U.S. $$$ at home? We have a hard enough time keeping our own citizens employed. Who is going to pay for the war and now the two hurricanes???


51 posted on 09/23/2005 6:10:01 PM PDT by phantomworker (It is not the answer that enlightens, but the question.)
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To: Hotdog

When you make your reservations, tell them you are on a salt free diet.

With special diets they have, for b-fast: a nice fruit, melon selection. For lunch: generally a small steak, and for dinner a large dinner salad with chicken. Oh, and BTW, the salt and pepper is wrapped up with your utensils.

While your seat mates are eating the microwaved eggs, you are having a great fruit bowl.


52 posted on 09/23/2005 6:44:00 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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2,500 airbuses, times say 5 landings/takeoffs a day, times say 10 years equals roughly 46 million cycles. Now, 7 million divided by 46 million is an awfully small number.

Your math is wrong, and even though you made a correction in a subsequent post its STILL wrong, because you did not read the article.

The key point is this design flaw SHOULD have been corrected long ago, and AFAIK no other manufacturer uses a "fail dangerous" design.

The point you missed in the article is:

A Canadian study issued last year documented 67 incidents of nose-landing-gear failures on Airbus 319, 320 and 321 aircraft worldwide since 1989.

53 posted on 09/23/2005 6:44:10 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Lokibob

I've done that and you're right, much better food.


54 posted on 09/23/2005 6:53:04 PM PDT by phantomworker (It is not the answer that enlightens, but the question.)
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To: konaice
How about this pattern? All intelligent informed Americans boycott any Airbus flight.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

55 posted on 09/23/2005 7:33:29 PM PDT by FLCowboy, (Hillary is changing her colors. She's a chameleon. No, she's a liberal.)
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To: phantomworker

I don't know, it blows my mind. There are at least three Airbuses that have crashed under mysterious circumstances - such as the one out of Kennedy three or so years ago. The FAA has done nothing with those.


56 posted on 09/23/2005 8:08:06 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Isn't that strange? What is the JAA? Maybe Airbus is under their jurisdiction? You would think if they were in the U.S., the FAA would have control. I know how paranoid Boeing is of the FAA. Could there be some bias against Boeing?


57 posted on 09/23/2005 8:12:23 PM PDT by phantomworker (It is not the answer that enlightens, but the question.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Designed under the watchful eye of Boeing. I don't fly Airbus ever. I've made it this far even with a few previous trips on Airbus,well over 250,000 miles. Oh yea and I don't fly DC-10's either.


58 posted on 09/23/2005 8:13:47 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

The French deserve all of our scorn - mostly because they are silly and pompous.


59 posted on 09/23/2005 8:15:17 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: phantomworker

YES!


60 posted on 09/23/2005 8:17:04 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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