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Adultery Is Killing the American Family
Illinois Leader ^ | 9/22/05 | Nathan Tabor

Posted on 09/22/2005 5:48:16 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: durasell
But I suppose I should cross Asfarastheeastisfromthewest off my list for the FR strip club tour of NYC I was planning.

Hahahaha... good one. Yup, you can cross me off that list. Definitely won't be taking it in. Thanks for thinking of me though lol.

281 posted on 09/22/2005 10:50:22 PM PDT by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: durasell

I remember that story from Scores, sad. Oh well, what can you do? When a city loses its strip club edge, it's all over!


282 posted on 09/22/2005 10:50:22 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

I haven't been there, but apparently there's a club downtown where hipsters are trying to revive the "art" of burlesque.


283 posted on 09/22/2005 10:53:24 PM PDT by durasell
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To: Time4Atlas2Shrug
You are so depressing. How do you get through your day? It sounds like an impossible struggle.

Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.

Let me ask you a question. Do you have joy in your life? The joy of knowing your sins are forgiven? That you were once condemned to an eternal hell but were miraculously saved from it? That it didn't cost anything other than a little faith? Depressed? Far from it. It is the folks that don't have this promise firmly in their grasp that have reason to be depressed.

284 posted on 09/22/2005 10:58:22 PM PDT by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: All

My guy's father gave him one of the best explanations I've heard concerning why he would never commit adultery. Aside from loving his wife - he said that "it's just incredibly rude."

Putting your own needs above those of your spouse and family - is the ultimate inconsiderate act.


285 posted on 09/22/2005 11:13:48 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: All

i guess marriage is not defined the same throughout out country?


286 posted on 09/22/2005 11:16:53 PM PDT by Nooseman
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To: Trust but Verify
I cannot imagine a scenario where I would even be tempted to cheat on my husband. Not only is it WRONG, it would be the ultimate betrayal. I could never do that to him.

I'm sure he feels the sameway.

Reading your comment and then seeing your screen name cracked me up!

287 posted on 09/22/2005 11:28:08 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: HitmanNY
"It's opportunity".

Bingo! No truer words spoken.

You just don't allow yourself to be in a position where the opportunity can present itself.
288 posted on 09/22/2005 11:29:42 PM PDT by KimmyJaye (Susan Estrich: A face for radio and a voice for pantomime.)
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To: Ostlandr

Honor is in very short supply these days. Glad to see there are a few of us who value this virtue.


289 posted on 09/22/2005 11:32:58 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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Appreciation of the female form is
human nature,we are all victims of old sin nature.or human nature. many of us men would not have selected you females,if it werent in part for human nature. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of god. Now we know ,we are devoted to you as husbands,but we dont have any problems appreciating the beauty of the female form.now liking the physical apearance of the opposite sex is far from adultery.Adultery is behaving as husband and wife,not goin to the beach and sayin ,wow!

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290 posted on 09/22/2005 11:35:04 PM PDT by Nooseman
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To: HitmanNY

Yeah, I could see this guy picking out smooth rocks in my mind.


291 posted on 09/22/2005 11:36:03 PM PDT by Melas (What!? Read something? Learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stu)
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To: Black Tooth

Alriiiiiiighty then.


292 posted on 09/22/2005 11:38:55 PM PDT by Melas (What!? Read something? Learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stu)
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To: Melas

No doubt, more than a few would agree with the obvious.


293 posted on 09/22/2005 11:41:14 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: HitmanNY

I can instantly see what's wrong with your equation. Most marriages aren't childless and there aren't any children in your equation. Try again.


294 posted on 09/22/2005 11:41:40 PM PDT by Melas (What!? Read something? Learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stu)
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To: durasell
Guys who have been around a couple of blocks typically have a firm grasp of consequences.

Now that's the honest truth.

295 posted on 09/22/2005 11:42:57 PM PDT by Melas (What!? Read something? Learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stu)
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To: Black Tooth

Bet that line didn't work on the playground either.


296 posted on 09/22/2005 11:44:04 PM PDT by Melas (What!? Read something? Learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stu)
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To: Jaysun

Adulterers, pedophiles, and rapists are just misunderstood...

The prevalence of non-judgmental liberalism in our entertainment and education has taken away the moral boundaries that once restrained the more animalistic tendencies of our base human nature.

There is no doubt that us men like sex and are tempted from time to time to have extra marital sex. The subversive thought that the temptation and the act of giving into that temptation are healthy expressions of our masculinity and are not morally wrong goes a long way to encouraging men to take that step. The universally found justification for adultery is that it was always the other spouse's fault.

More and more I've been hearing rapists and pedophiles using the same thinking in their excuses. More and more we're seeing men and women committing crimes who wouldn't be committing those crimes if they had been brought up to have a stronger moral guide.


297 posted on 09/22/2005 11:47:12 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: HitmanNY

I like this gauge, and it reminds me of another. Something emotionally bad happens. How to deal with it? Would you be willing to cut-off a pinky or perhaps undergo a root canal to prevent it? In essence, trading off different levels of physical discomforture to deal with the mental. Kinda puts things into perspective.


298 posted on 09/22/2005 11:48:58 PM PDT by paix
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To: Melas
If children are added to the principle, it doesn't change it too much.

Children or not, if your spouse doesn't want to breathe the same air as you and would rather be with someone else, you don't have much to say about it as a practical matter.

If the couple tries to work it out, children do complicate matters but in some ways a lot of folks don't consider. The added investment of energy naturally creates added stresses.

In the childless example I gave, those stresses are sometimes taken out on the self, sometimes the spouse, and sometimes with other folks not in the immediate family.

Add children to the mix and now those added stresses are taken out on the self, sometimes the spouse, and sometimes the children, sometimes other folks not in the immediate family.

The children will invariably suffer if the two people try to make it work or if they don't try to make it work. In other words, the children were hurt when the decision was made to cheat, which created the dynamic I am talking about.

So the kids are hurt in either example. In mathematical terms, it appears on both sides of the equation (with kids/without kids), so continuing with the mathematics metaphor, it cancels itself out.

The kids are hurting no matter what. Don't read that as an endorsement for hurting kids: it's just that the harm is done when one partner cheats, not when the wronged partner decides they don't want to invest the energy in the relationship.

In any case, investing energy in children is always important, and as I explained it's a variable on both sides of the equation.
299 posted on 09/22/2005 11:52:05 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Melas
>>Bet that line didn't work on the playground either.<<

Well,sorry for you, and the cute quip you put forth, what I said was the truth. Deal with it.
300 posted on 09/22/2005 11:53:25 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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