Posted on 09/22/2005 2:42:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Unless they happen to be a minority-American.
One small correction, the USCG can board any vessel in international waters no matter the nationality to verify paperwork and to ensure the vessel is not stateless. However the boarding stops when this has been completed and there is not any searching of the vessel allowed. However this means that if you run and ignore orders to stop you can be stopped by force. Now mind you this is not done very often with foreign flagged vessels but the right to do so is there.
Well put!
The second boat owner who spoke to The Herald said his boat was searched after he challenged officers who were searching other boats, at 10:30 p.m. Sept. 2, and during the morning on following days. Told they were acting as Homeland Security officers, he asked what they were protecting the harbor from.
"Terrorists," he said he was told by the officers, who exhorted him to "remember the Cole," referring to the October 2000 attack by terrorists on the USS Cole that killed 17 sailors.
"The only terrorists down here are you guys," he told them
Oh Ya! this guy really has his act together. Smart move bozo. You don't suppose they took down the name of the boat?....nah, didn't think so either.
Wonder if this had anything to do with the major marijuana busts that recently went down locally. Especially since they wanted access to the bilges.
I've read the article. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it state that the USCG did their stunt over the entire Monterey Bay?
So, how come we haven't heard anything from the tree huggers in Santa Cruz harbor or the hot heads in Monterey harbor? Santa Cruz has folks that stay on their boats and so does Monterey.
Interesting that the Coasties ran their RIBs across the bay in the dark. Moss Landing isn't exactly twenty minutes away from the station in Monterey and the mouth of the harbor isn't really fun to navigate at night.
It's starting to sound like they were after something...
Which is the problem with most LEA abuses.
I've been boarded about a dozen times, and in almost every case the Coasties have been terrific. Polite, professional. Don't get an attitude with them, and no problem.
Basically good advice whenever you;re dealing with LEOs
It never hurts to be nice.
I used to be one of those jackbooted bording officers. Yeah they would whine about how intimidated they were until we pulled a couple of bails of BC Bud out of the engine hold of their sailboat.
Another bleeding heart had $350M in cocaine on their sport fishing boat.
We had others with illegals aboard.
The CG has the widest jurisdiction of any law enforcement body in the US. They can stop a US flag vessel anywhere in the world.
You want your borders protected, that means your ports and the navigable waters.
There are no "regular people". There are samuri, peasants, and outlaws. Only one of those groups has freedom. Get with the program!
I've been on the phone today with my buddy from Key West with the Hylas 51.
Winds were 100-110 and he was aboard and had her cross springed and bow and stern lined every which a way and chained to two 14 inch creosote pilings which subsequently snapped and set her partially adrift tangled in flotsam and lines in Florida bay.
He expects damage at 25-50K to masts, rigging and deck and trim and paint etc
he said he's gpoing to fix it all with the insurance and sell her and move back to Maryland to work for his dad.
he's done.
i am hearing from bankers and real estate folks here that they are getting a lot of calls from folks in FL, MS, AL and LA coastal areas that are done for and are looking for the country squire life in middle TN with a nice little horse farm or the like within 100 miles of Nashville...middle aged folks with some cash that are burned out on evacs, downed trees, insurance hikes, no power for weeks etc.
Roger that.
I'll own up. I *was* once that coastie *doing* those boardings some (now many) years ago. I boarded hundreds and hundreds of different boats over the time I was in. I was enlisted, but I'd done so many boardings that I had worked my way into being the lead Boarding Officer or Assistant Boarding Officer on many boardings.
I grew up on boats. I understand and fully identify with the boating community. Most people in the CG have the same story. That's why I joined the Coast Guard and it is the overriding reason why most people do. Nothing I did while I was there was in any way a violation of that.
The thing that ticks me off about this story us that it seems to just leave unchecked this idea that there's coasties just sitting around waiting for the chance to go hassle mom and pop boater.
As if.
Stuff like this doesn't happen for no reason. There just isn't time for playgames. There's lots better stuff to do.
Because we apparently want safety more than freedom. And in the end will have neither.
Piffle.
Just plain not true. Makes for a cute tagline, but that's about all.
Funny how the "seal the border" crowd and the "CG are Jackbooted thugs" crowd... are all the same people.
It's "almost" funny.
I am very close to a WWII Navy vet who spent alot of his time chasing U-Boats off the East Coast. One can find old U-Boat lookout towers along the beaches.
IF, you know what you're looking at, that is.
These historical stories weren't incorporated into history books used by American public schools, for some reason.
There is quite a bit of information here:
www.battlebelow.com/viddoc.htm
WAR ZONE: WW II OFF NORTH CAROLINA'S OUTER BANKS (PART I)
VHS
WAR ZONE, by North Carolina filmmaker Kevin Duffus, is two 90 minute videos of archival footage and contemporary interviews showing Outer Banks people and scenes, war action at sea and the personal stories of witnesses and victims of the German U-boat assault along the East coast of the United States in 1942 with its epicenter at Cape Hatteras.
The United States suffered one of its worst defeats of WWII not in Europe or the Pacific but along the nation's eastern seaboard. Three hundred ninety-seven ships were sunk or damaged and nearly 5,000 people were killed. The loss of lives, ships and raw resources represents one of the greatest maritime disasters in history.
For six months, sixty-five German U-boats hunted Allied merchant vessels practically unopposed within view of American coastal communities. The greatest concentration of these attacks occurred off North Carolina's Outer Banks. War Zone is a story of infamy, irony and innocence lost.
Featured in Part One are the heart-rending stories of torpedoed Merchant sailors and young Coast Guard lifesavers unable to come to their rescue. Viewers will marvel at the courage of a young mother who delivered her newborn son in a lifeboat on the storm tossed waves of the Graveyard of the Atlantic. Learn how Germany surprised America's defenses despite Britain's warnings.
"Terrorists," he said he was told by the officers, who exhorted him to "remember the Cole," referring to the October 2000 attack by terrorists on the USS Cole that killed 17 sailors."
I didn't know the Cole was attacked in Monterey.
I don't know about that...I've seen alot of them on this thread. Thanks for the ping.
Only because they didn't think of it first. Ever been to Monterey? They would have if they could have. It's sorta like Yemen. Only with higher rent. Their loyalties are the same, however. Anything AntiAmerican is a good sell, must like most of California.
If I didn't already have a tagline, I think I'd glom onto that one!
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