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Sun's Output Increasing in Possible Trend Fueling Global Warming
Space.com ^ | March 20th 2003 | By Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 09/21/2005 1:11:52 PM PDT by MNJohnnie

what could be the simplest explanation for one component of global warming, a new study shows the Sun's radiation has increased by .05 percent per decade since the late 1970s.

The increase would only be significant to Earth's climate if it has been going on for a century or more, said study leader Richard Willson, a Columbia University researcher also affiliated with NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

The Sun's increasing output has only been monitored with precision since satellite technology allowed necessary observations. Willson is not sure if the trend extends further back in time, but other studies suggest it does.

"This trend is important because, if sustained over many decades, it could cause significant climate change," Willson said.

In a NASA-funded study recently published in Geophysical Research Letters, Willson and his colleagues speculate on the possible history of the trend based on data collected in the pre-satellite era.

"Solar activity has apparently been going upward for a century or more," Willson told SPACE.com today.

Significant component

Further satellite observations may eventually show the trend to be short-term. But if the change has indeed persisted at the present rate through the 20th Century, "it would have provided a significant component of the global warming the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports to have occurred over the past 100 years," he said.

That does not mean industrial pollution has not been a significant factor, Willson cautioned.

Scientists, industry leaders and environmentalists have argued for years whether humans have contributed to global warming, and to what extent. The average surface temperature around the globe has risen by about 1 degree Fahrenheit since 1880. Some scientists say the increase could be part of natural climate cycles. Others argue that greenhouse gases produced by automobiles and industry are largely to blame.

Willson said the Sun's possible influence has been largely ignored because it is so difficult to quantify over long periods.

Confounding efforts to determine the Sun's role is the fact that its energy output waxes and wanes every 11 years. This solar cycle, as it is called, reached maximum in the middle of 2000 and achieved a second peak in 2002. It is now ramping down toward a solar minimum that will arrive in about three years.

Connections

Changes in the solar cycle -- and solar output -- are known to cause short-term climate change on Earth. At solar max, Earth's thin upper atmosphere can see a doubling of temperature. It swells, and denser air can puff up to the region of space where the International Space Station orbits, causing increased drag on the ship and forcing more frequent boosts from space shuttles.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: enviroment; globalwarming; hurricane; rita; solarenergy; solaroutput; sun; sunsenergy; warming
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To: muir_redwoods
Well, now you got my curiosity going. Do you have any links to any of this?
81 posted on 09/21/2005 7:07:07 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: MNJohnnie

Ping (to send to my tree-hugging friends)

Who knew the sun warmed the earth?


82 posted on 09/21/2005 7:12:58 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: inquest

Try this,

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050921/480/la10809210105


83 posted on 09/21/2005 7:14:22 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: muir_redwoods
Thanks. I did some further digging and found this thread on FR. According to the article:

"Some gullies, on slopes of large sand dunes, might have formed when frozen carbon dioxide, trapped by windblown sand during winter, vaporized rapidly in spring, releasing gas that made the sand flow as a gully-carving fluid."

The salient point in all this, however, is that the article does confirm that Mars is indeed warming along with us.

84 posted on 09/21/2005 7:44:32 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: MNJohnnie

This can mean only one thing. Karl Rove's cooked up the Weather Manipulator Mark-II. This new model has the ability to control the sun and also martian weather.


85 posted on 09/21/2005 8:42:00 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: fat city
Bush needs to appoint a Sun Czar.

I dunno I'd prefer to see a sun goddess myself......
86 posted on 09/21/2005 8:43:13 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Damn, I heard the new version of the Solaris OS was good, but not that good.


87 posted on 09/21/2005 8:45:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: Fresh Wind

John Kerry was for Kyoto before he voted against it.


88 posted on 09/21/2005 8:53:21 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Fierce Allegiance

No, no, no. I'm convinced global warming has been caused by my mother using aerosol hair spray back in the 70's. It's a fact. /sarcasm


89 posted on 09/22/2005 12:04:52 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (I don't recognize my own country anymore.)
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To: Sundog
Damn! I knew it. Halliburton again.
Sundog, you are one smart puppy. You figgered it out.

Next question:
I know that Dick Cheney started Halliburton back in the mid 20th century so he and his cronies could rule the world, but how did they get so many Democrats to go along with them back in the 90s? The 70s? The 60s?
And and just how old was Dick Cheney when he started Halliburton so he could rule the world? he mustard been a child prodigy. Or at least a smart little bugger.
90 posted on 09/22/2005 5:51:21 AM PDT by Bar-Face (The Embassy helicopter is warming up.)
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To: Bar-Face
but how did they get so many Democrats to go along with them back in the 90s? The 70s? The 60s?

Do you have more information about this? I'm a little out of the loop when it comes to Haliburton Lore.

91 posted on 09/22/2005 6:05:17 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest
inquest, where have you been? Haliburton as we all know is the root of all the worlds problems. EVERY evil thing that has happened in the world, no the UNIVERSE is directly or indirectly a result of the eviil Haliburton. I know this for a fact. I found it on DemocratUnderground.commy and Moveon.orgy. :0
92 posted on 09/22/2005 7:00:33 AM PDT by Bar-Face (The Embassy helicopter is warming up.)
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To: Bar-Face
I was asking specifically about the involvement of Democrats in the company, if that's true. I didn't know if you were being serious about that.
93 posted on 09/22/2005 7:52:33 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Bar-Face

Oh Bar-Face, You made my day asking me those questions.

Next I shall have to go to my favorite StarBucks Coffee house, drink two cups (Actually a large water and a vente coffee mixed with 5 packets of honey) and inquire more deeply. Then I shall get back to you.


94 posted on 09/22/2005 9:07:09 AM PDT by Sundog (Cheers.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Shut it down it's an unshielded nuclear reactor. It causes burns when people are exposed to it radiation. It irradiates our food supply(raisins), excessive exposure has been know to dry up bodies of water, cause global warming, and is a leading factor in reduction of glacier ice. Shut it down!!!!!!!!
95 posted on 09/22/2005 9:11:37 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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To: FlatLandBeer
Shut it down it's an unshielded nuclear reactor

Oh....that was FUNNY. I don't care who you are, that was funny.

96 posted on 09/22/2005 9:17:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("Don't get stuck on stupid, reporters.")
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To: MNJohnnie

Thank you..I try....


97 posted on 09/22/2005 9:22:32 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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To: MNJohnnie
Let's put some basic math to this:

First of all I'm working under the assumption that all our heat comes from the sun.
If our average temperature on the planet is say, 40 degrees Farenheit. And we multiply the 40 degrees by the .05% (.0005) increase in the suns output, we come up with .02 degrees of additional heating per year. Over 100 years, that .02 degrees becomes 2 degrees.

Since we have observes an actual increase of 1 degree, I would have to assume that this increase in solar oputput is more than enough to account for ALL the temperature increase we have seen.

Now for the blame game:
The sun is the problem
George W. Bush is the son of George H.W. Bush
George W. Bush is the son

It's Bush's fault

98 posted on 09/22/2005 9:39:08 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
And we multiply the 40 degrees by the .05% (.0005) increase in the suns output, we come up with .02 degrees of additional heating per year.

Why per year?

99 posted on 09/22/2005 10:29:56 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: MNJohnnie

1.005 times the insolation should be doing something. The planet is adjusting fairly well so far.


100 posted on 09/22/2005 10:32:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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