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Allstate won't pay Katrina flood claims
MarketWatch ^ | Sept. 20, 2005 | Alistair Barr

Posted on 09/21/2005 10:01:23 AM PDT by george76

Insurer's operating chief responds to Mississippi suit...

Allstate Corp. won't pay flooding claims stemming from Hurricane Katrina, Chief Operating Officer Tom Wilson said on Tuesday, in a direct challenge to a lawsuit filed last week by Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood.

Controversy has emerged surrounding the devastating flooding that followed the storm. Standard homeowners' insurance policies typically exclude flooding, partly because a national, government-run program covers those risks. However, many homeowners hit by Katrina may not have bought this extra coverage.

Mississippi's Hood sued Allstate and four other leading insurers in the state on Sept. 16, arguing that their flood exclusions should be voided and that they should pay flood claims.

"Exhibit one for us will be just the national flood-insurance programs -- advertising programs, which they put on very aggressively every year," he said. "People know this is a separate coverage, so we're not having many issues with our customers."

Allstate's Wilson did concede that there will be "issues" when assessing what damage was caused by wind and what was the result of flooding.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: allstate; insurance; katrina; rita
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To: Owl_Eagle
Either way, EVERYONE'S premiums are going up.

Beat the crowd -- grab your ankles now!

101 posted on 09/21/2005 10:32:19 AM PDT by Malacoda (*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*)
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To: george76

I just finished payin a $917.00 bill for Flood Insurance. I've had the policy since 1978. I've never had a claim. But I'm in a flood zone, so I have the insurance. I also have a homeowner's policy. I don't really mind having two policies. I'm fortunate to be able to afford them. That said, I must be out of my mind to be paying that kind of money when I could just sue my homeowner's company! What the #ell was I thinking? Bottom line - homeowner's insurance doesn't cover flood damage. Never has. Live with it.


102 posted on 09/21/2005 10:33:08 AM PDT by Texasbound
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To: george76

Allstate wouldn't cover the property damage I suffered due to last year's mountain flooding here in California. I didn't have flood insurance. It cost me $20k.


My bad.


103 posted on 09/21/2005 10:33:22 AM PDT by socal_parrot (Does this tagline make me look fat?)
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To: Ben Mugged
"And if I was a stockholder in one of those companies I would ensure the CEO got canned.....

Of course and isn't it amazing how clueless people are when it comes to a publically held corporations legal responsibilities to it's shareholders?

104 posted on 09/21/2005 10:33:59 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: dmz

Any water damage is considered flood damage.


105 posted on 09/21/2005 10:34:08 AM PDT by sharktrager (http://hookedonphoniks.blogspot.com)
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To: Texas Eagle
Do you remember Jim Craig?....I don't know what happened to him. I think he may have finally had a meltdown.

Yup,I remember him.What a foul %%*&^ he was.At least Gillis was reasonably polite if not completely in Karl Marx's camp.

106 posted on 09/21/2005 10:34:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Cobra64

no so. I think part of the issue is not the flood but the fact that insurance companies are trying to say ALL H20 damage is "flood".

Apparently Miss. law has a nuance which would require coverage. Thus when the companies entered Miss. they were on notice for the legal requiremnts.


This happens all the time with national companies which fail to account for state by state legal differences in law.

The lawyers will make out.

(in a related situation, retirees run into this when they retire and die in one state but have a will written under the laws of another state. The nuances can be very important.)


107 posted on 09/21/2005 10:34:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Owl_Eagle
In states like Illinois, you can't get a mortgage without flood insurance if you're living in a designated flood zone. I think New Orleans would have qualified as a "flood zone" if the state actually used a watt of brain power and made it mandatory. I don't see how Allstate should pay for what it explicitly does not agree to cover.

This sounds like a job for the Extortinator:


108 posted on 09/21/2005 10:34:49 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: dfwgator
"Yeah but at least they don't employ homophobes. /sarcasm"

Lisp when you say that, boy!

;o)
109 posted on 09/21/2005 10:35:20 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: george76

I assume that all homes that still have mortgages on them have banks that require adequate insurance. It's often the people who've paid off their home who underinsure.


110 posted on 09/21/2005 10:36:55 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Well, it's nice to hear from you again. Good job on remembering the origin of my nick. You probably remember Fred Houlihan. He goes by StopGlobalWhining on FR.


111 posted on 09/21/2005 10:36:58 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: sharktrager

"Any water damage is considered flood damage."

Not exactly. If a pipe breaks insid your house, that should be covered. If the wind blows the roof off your house and the rain gets in, that may be covered. If the creek rised to your 2nd floor, that's not covered.


112 posted on 09/21/2005 10:37:11 AM PDT by Texasbound
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To: sharktrager
Any water damage is considered flood damage.

I don't think that's universally true.In a case where your water pipes burst/leak,as can sometimes happen in bitterly cold weather,the damage caused by the water is covered.

113 posted on 09/21/2005 10:37:40 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: ladtx
Allstates competitors should jump at this and say they will cover ALL claims flood or wind. They would soon have all of Allstates customers.

No, they'd all go bankrupt and Allstate would be the only company left. I'm an Allstate customer; I'll stay with Allstate.

114 posted on 09/21/2005 10:37:51 AM PDT by azsportsterman
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To: NonValueAdded
"Your mention of being under-insured due to appreciation is the next shoe to drop, I'll bet. That will be a rude awakening for many."

Yeah, I just recently fixed all that in May (right before hurricane season). I'm ready for anything. I'm telling you the people who want to save a few hundred dollars on insurance are going to be in heap of trouble if they try and rebuild with insufficient coverage. BIG time!
115 posted on 09/21/2005 10:38:24 AM PDT by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence.)
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To: george76

My father always said, "Your in good hands with Allstate, until you try to collect on your policy".


116 posted on 09/21/2005 10:39:06 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Herakles
“Natural Disaster Surcharge” = "National Stupidity Surcharge" for citizens in other states who purposely chose to live in areas not affected by these natural disasters be required to support the foolish whims and desires of others who want to live in a “beautiful place” that has natural dangers that reoccur.
117 posted on 09/21/2005 10:40:33 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: george76
I would bet that Allstate Insurance company at one time had something to do with insuring slaves. Now they do not want to pay up to people who were uninsured or under-insured. How long will it be before the Congressional Black Caucus, Je$$ie, Al $harpton and the other race-baiters get involved and calls Allstate a racist group who should then be forced to hire a friend of Je$$ie to give all the execs at Allstate a sensitivity course for about $300,000 a session?
118 posted on 09/21/2005 10:41:24 AM PDT by hophead (" Enjoy Every Sandwich" WZ)
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To: NavyCanDo

I can imagine it being like the insurance company in "The Incredibles."


119 posted on 09/21/2005 10:42:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: hophead

See #108


120 posted on 09/21/2005 10:45:03 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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