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Able Danger: Pentagon Spikes Witnesses While Shaffer Reveals New Source
Captains Quarters ^ | September 20, 2005 | Captain Ed

Posted on 09/20/2005 9:08:30 PM PDT by bobsunshine

Able Danger: Pentagon Spikes Witnesses While Shaffer Reveals New Source

The New York Times reports this evening that the Pentagon has blocked its military witnesses from testifying on Able Danger at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings tomorrow. Senator Arlen Specter registered his surprise but plans on holding the hearings anyway (h/t: AJ Strata):

The Pentagon said today that it had blocked a group of military officers and intelligence analysts from testifying at an open Congressional hearing about a highly classified military intelligence program that, the officers have said, identified a ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks as a potential terrorist more than a year before the attacks.

The announcement came a day before the officers and intelligence analysts had been scheduled to testify about the program, known as Able Danger, at a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee. ...

Mr. Specter said his staff had talked to all five of the potential witnesses and found that "credibility has been established" for all of them.

"There are quite a few credible people who are prepared to testify that Mohamed Atta was identified long before 9/11," he said. "Now maybe there's more than one Mohamed Atta. Or maybe there's some mistake. But that's what we're trying to find out."

The Pentagon might think that withdrawing its witnesses will keep Able Danger from breaking wide open, but they will find themselves sorely mistaken. This only demonstrates that the program found something that the Pentagon still wants hidden. If that includes a finding that their program not only found Atta and other AQ terrorists over a year before the attacks, but also predicted the USS Cole attack three weeks before it happened, and that the Pentagon shut down the program anyway, eighteen Senators will want to know why.

In fact, the withdrawal of the witnesses clearly shows that the story has substance and isn't a case of mistaken identity. Had this just been an identification of a second Mohammed Atta, as Specter postulates, the Pentagon should have no problem putting its witnesses on the stand. Nothing about a mistaken identity would create a classification problem for the hearing tomorrow.

QT Monster has a transcript from tonight's interview of LTC Tony Shaffer on the Jerry Doyle radio show. Shaffer says Donald Rumsfeld himself gave the order to stop the witnesses from appearing at the Judiciary Committee hearing:

JD: Well, when you say DoD, where's this coming from at DoD? Is this instructions to DoD from higher ups? Is this people in DoD who are afraid of what information gets out? I mean who is the person who's making this happen? AS: What I will tell you is I was told by 2 DoD officials today directly that it is their understanding that the Secretary of Defense directed that we not testify tomorrow. That is my understanding.

However, Shaffer says that former Major Eric Kleinstadt, now a civilian contractor, will still testify at the panel. Kleinstadt received the orders to destroy the Able Danger database. Specter's insistence that the hearings go forward probably hinges on Kleinstadt's ability to testify to the information that got destroyed, who ordered its destruction, and why. From that point, the committee could unravel an entire command sequence that will uncover how Able Danger got missed by the 9/11 Commission.

Another interesting fact got mentioned in Shaffer's interview. He spoke about a Dr. Eileen Pricer. One of the more mysterious potential sources of the Able Danger story involved a female PhD that could corroborate Shaffer and Phillpott, the woman who actually developed the Atta identification in the first place. I Googled Eileen Pricer and got just one hit -- but it's a doozy.

It turns out that Dr. Pricer testified before a closed session of Congressional subcommittee on national security exactly one month after 9/11. That testimony isn't available, but Rep. Christopher Shays mentions her on the record in the next day's public testimony:

Mr. Shays. In a briefing we had yesterday, we had Eileen Pricer, who argues that we don't have the data we need because we don't take all the public data that is available and mix it with the security data. And just taking public data, using, you know, computer systems that are high-speed and able to digest, you know, literally floors' worth of material, she can take relationships that are seven times removed, seven units removed, and when she does that, she ends up with relationships to the bin Laden group where she sees the purchase of chemicals, the sending of students to universities. You wouldn't see it if you isolated it there, but if that unit is connected to that unit, which is connected to that unit, which is connected to that unit, you then see the relationship. So we don't know ultimately the authenticity of how she does it, but when she does it, she comes up with the kind of answer that you have just asked, which is a little unsettling. Unsettling? Christopher Shays described Able Danger thirty-one days after the 9/11 attacks. What else did Eileen Pricer tell the Congressional subcommittee on national security on October 11, 2001? Did Pricer tell Shays that the information no longer existed but did at one time?

Senator Specter should invite Christopher Shays to have a seat on the witness bench, and he should also start issuing subpoenas for the witnesses that the Pentagon wants to silence. We need answers, and we need to know that our country will fight terrorism with every tool at its disposal.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; abledanger; atta; coverup; eileenpricer; gorelickwall; pricer; sept11; shays; whitewash
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To: bobsunshine

"The Pentagon said today that it had blocked a group of military officers and intelligence analysts from testifying at an open Congressional hearing about a highly classified military intelligence program that, the officers have said, identified a ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks as a potential terrorist more than a year before the attacks.

What I want to know is, who the hell the Pimpagon thinks it is blocking a CONGRESSIONAL inquiry.

They are RULED by Civilians, they don't rule themselves.


341 posted on 09/21/2005 9:15:23 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: TomGuy
"Is this going to fall on Rumsfeld as the one who stopped the others from testifying?

Not a good sign if the Bush administration is doing this."

Yeah, but Rumsfeld knows he will get away with it because the left and press doesn't want the story pursued any further.
342 posted on 09/21/2005 9:15:37 AM PDT by TBall
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To: defconw

Jeff Sessions (R) AL. :-)

I'd like to thank all the Dems who stonewalled his judicial nomination. He's a burr under their country club saddles.


343 posted on 09/21/2005 9:16:07 AM PDT by auboy
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To: texasbluebell
Vice Adm. Thomas Wilson was in Command of the DIA during this period. They also suppressed info that could have prevented the USS Cole attack. From my research:

Vice Adm. Thomas Wilson, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, wrote to all DIA personnel this week to explain the protest resignation of a DIA analyst in October. The analyst, Kie Fallis, quit the day after the USS Cole was attacked by suicide bombers in Aden, Yemen. Mr. Fallis charged that a report he had written on the threat of a terrorist attack in Yemen was suppressed by senior DIA officials.

Mr. Fallis' resignation letter stated that he had "significant analytic differences" with DIA superiors over a terrorist threat assessment produced in June.

U.S. intelligence officials said there were warnings, but they arrived too late. The National Security Agency issued a report shortly after the Cole was bombed warning of attacks in the region —too late to be useful.

Adm. Wilson said he asked the Pentagon inspector general (IG) to investigate Mr. Fallis' charges. In an awkwardly worded statement, the three-star admiral said on Wednesday the IG "found no evidence to support the public perception that information warning of an attack on Cole was suppressed, ignored or even available in DIA." What about the private perception?

The admiral's statement drew smirks from several intelligence officials. It relied on a dodge often used by intelligence analysts to dismiss unwelcome information. Saying there is "no evidence" —like that presented to a court of law — is often used to mask the fact there is lots of intelligence to the contrary that spooks would rather not talk about in public.

Source

Mr. Fallis also uncovered terrorist info related to 9/11:

One piece of the puzzle that Mr. Fallis uncovered was an intelligence report about a secret meeting of al Qaeda terrorists in a condominium complex in Malaysia in January 2000.

Information obtained after September 11 identified two of them as Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who would be on American Airlines Flight 77 when it crashed into the Pentagon. They met with a former Malaysian army captain, Yazi Sufaat, described by Malaysian authorities as a key link in Southeast Asia for al Qaeda, who later would be tied to the bombing of the Cole.

What alarmed U.S. intelligence at the time was that Malaysian security officials traced the men to the Iranian Embassy there, where they spent the night.

Source


344 posted on 09/21/2005 9:16:50 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: All
From yahoo news.

Representative Curt Weldon, R-Pa., testifies on 'Able
Danger' and intelligence sharing prior to the Sept. 11
attacks before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Capitol
Hill Wednesday, Sept. 21, 2005. James Smith, second from
left, and Lt...

345 posted on 09/21/2005 9:17:11 AM PDT by McGruff (Woof!!)
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To: hershey
Yes and it ain't over! Not by a long shot. That last guy really ticked Specter off and Sessions was not buying what that DOD guy was selling either. Stay tuned as they say.
346 posted on 09/21/2005 9:17:13 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: auboy

Ditto! :)


347 posted on 09/21/2005 9:17:54 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: ravingnutter

Dodge Bump!


348 posted on 09/21/2005 9:19:53 AM PDT by auboy
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To: TBall
Yeah, but Rumsfeld knows he will get away with it because the left and press doesn't want the story pursued any further.

I dunno...Rove is good at the rope-a-dope strategery. Anytime they think the Bush admin is stonewalling, the media starts publicly demanding the answers and more often than not, it has blown up in their faces.

349 posted on 09/21/2005 9:20:33 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Peach

ANd I listen to the entire thing without finding any "live" Thread....
One thing I missed.....What is the name of person/lawyer who told him he had to stay within the 90 day limit and destroy the materials?....WOuld like to know who he answered to....WHy didn't he contact his higher ups to ask for some kind of extension or exception?


350 posted on 09/21/2005 9:20:55 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Blanco, Landrieu, Nagin & Witt.. good name for a flood control business...Motto:"We got dikes!")
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To: Txsleuth
Rummy may not know enough about AD to let his guys loose AT THIS MOMENT but he will...as long as it doesn't involve present security info.

Remember that the Bush Administration held back Condi for a long time and then she went before the 9-11 committee UNDER OATH. Of course, that was a big setup from the manner of questioning and arrogance of Ben Venista

Please remember also that Bubba went before the 9-11 committee also, not publicly and he WAS NOT under oath...not that an oath means anything to him. He's already proven that....hundreds of times.

351 posted on 09/21/2005 9:20:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: auboy

Here in Alabama, between Sessions as Senator and Riley as Governor we have some confidence. There are a few other low profile good officials. Problem is that they are the few and take a good chewing from the not so good ones.

I was researching the other day our state leg...While we are a red state, there are an awful lot of dem legislators. Thats why Riley has trouble getting things through.

Proud to have Sessions though. I dont hesitate to call his office.


352 posted on 09/21/2005 9:23:15 AM PDT by del4hope (Freedom of the Press is not a license to manipulate the public)
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To: defconw

If they're having closed hearings, perhaps something will come out...be leaked. A thread should be found and pulled, wherever it leads.


353 posted on 09/21/2005 9:23:22 AM PDT by hershey
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To: CharlieOK1
Interesting discussion of that Army regulation that led to the distruction of the documents at this link:

AR 381-10

354 posted on 09/21/2005 9:24:46 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: zeaal

Geeeze, sorry. You are asking the wrong person.
I don't know about all that stuff--I am a technophobe.


355 posted on 09/21/2005 9:26:18 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: RummyChick
The thing I come away with is there is a big stink somewhere and both sides are trying to cover it up.

That frightens me to no end.

356 posted on 09/21/2005 9:26:19 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: hershey

It's not over. Specter is a burr, sometimes that is useful to us.


357 posted on 09/21/2005 9:27:18 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: YaYa123

I missed most of the hearing but having read your excellent summation, I walked away feeling I heard it all. Thanks.


358 posted on 09/21/2005 9:27:28 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: colorcountry

Place mark.


359 posted on 09/21/2005 9:27:42 AM PDT by colorcountry (Where I come from, deeds mean a lot more than words. .....Zell Miller)
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To: YaYa123

You may be right.
Could be this hearing was cover for Specter. "Well, I did my part, Curt. Sorry we didn't get more info."


360 posted on 09/21/2005 9:28:56 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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