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Able Danger: Pentagon Spikes Witnesses While Shaffer Reveals New Source
Captains Quarters ^ | September 20, 2005 | Captain Ed

Posted on 09/20/2005 9:08:30 PM PDT by bobsunshine

Able Danger: Pentagon Spikes Witnesses While Shaffer Reveals New Source

The New York Times reports this evening that the Pentagon has blocked its military witnesses from testifying on Able Danger at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings tomorrow. Senator Arlen Specter registered his surprise but plans on holding the hearings anyway (h/t: AJ Strata):

The Pentagon said today that it had blocked a group of military officers and intelligence analysts from testifying at an open Congressional hearing about a highly classified military intelligence program that, the officers have said, identified a ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks as a potential terrorist more than a year before the attacks.

The announcement came a day before the officers and intelligence analysts had been scheduled to testify about the program, known as Able Danger, at a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee. ...

Mr. Specter said his staff had talked to all five of the potential witnesses and found that "credibility has been established" for all of them.

"There are quite a few credible people who are prepared to testify that Mohamed Atta was identified long before 9/11," he said. "Now maybe there's more than one Mohamed Atta. Or maybe there's some mistake. But that's what we're trying to find out."

The Pentagon might think that withdrawing its witnesses will keep Able Danger from breaking wide open, but they will find themselves sorely mistaken. This only demonstrates that the program found something that the Pentagon still wants hidden. If that includes a finding that their program not only found Atta and other AQ terrorists over a year before the attacks, but also predicted the USS Cole attack three weeks before it happened, and that the Pentagon shut down the program anyway, eighteen Senators will want to know why.

In fact, the withdrawal of the witnesses clearly shows that the story has substance and isn't a case of mistaken identity. Had this just been an identification of a second Mohammed Atta, as Specter postulates, the Pentagon should have no problem putting its witnesses on the stand. Nothing about a mistaken identity would create a classification problem for the hearing tomorrow.

QT Monster has a transcript from tonight's interview of LTC Tony Shaffer on the Jerry Doyle radio show. Shaffer says Donald Rumsfeld himself gave the order to stop the witnesses from appearing at the Judiciary Committee hearing:

JD: Well, when you say DoD, where's this coming from at DoD? Is this instructions to DoD from higher ups? Is this people in DoD who are afraid of what information gets out? I mean who is the person who's making this happen? AS: What I will tell you is I was told by 2 DoD officials today directly that it is their understanding that the Secretary of Defense directed that we not testify tomorrow. That is my understanding.

However, Shaffer says that former Major Eric Kleinstadt, now a civilian contractor, will still testify at the panel. Kleinstadt received the orders to destroy the Able Danger database. Specter's insistence that the hearings go forward probably hinges on Kleinstadt's ability to testify to the information that got destroyed, who ordered its destruction, and why. From that point, the committee could unravel an entire command sequence that will uncover how Able Danger got missed by the 9/11 Commission.

Another interesting fact got mentioned in Shaffer's interview. He spoke about a Dr. Eileen Pricer. One of the more mysterious potential sources of the Able Danger story involved a female PhD that could corroborate Shaffer and Phillpott, the woman who actually developed the Atta identification in the first place. I Googled Eileen Pricer and got just one hit -- but it's a doozy.

It turns out that Dr. Pricer testified before a closed session of Congressional subcommittee on national security exactly one month after 9/11. That testimony isn't available, but Rep. Christopher Shays mentions her on the record in the next day's public testimony:

Mr. Shays. In a briefing we had yesterday, we had Eileen Pricer, who argues that we don't have the data we need because we don't take all the public data that is available and mix it with the security data. And just taking public data, using, you know, computer systems that are high-speed and able to digest, you know, literally floors' worth of material, she can take relationships that are seven times removed, seven units removed, and when she does that, she ends up with relationships to the bin Laden group where she sees the purchase of chemicals, the sending of students to universities. You wouldn't see it if you isolated it there, but if that unit is connected to that unit, which is connected to that unit, which is connected to that unit, you then see the relationship. So we don't know ultimately the authenticity of how she does it, but when she does it, she comes up with the kind of answer that you have just asked, which is a little unsettling. Unsettling? Christopher Shays described Able Danger thirty-one days after the 9/11 attacks. What else did Eileen Pricer tell the Congressional subcommittee on national security on October 11, 2001? Did Pricer tell Shays that the information no longer existed but did at one time?

Senator Specter should invite Christopher Shays to have a seat on the witness bench, and he should also start issuing subpoenas for the witnesses that the Pentagon wants to silence. We need answers, and we need to know that our country will fight terrorism with every tool at its disposal.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; abledanger; atta; coverup; eileenpricer; gorelickwall; pricer; sept11; shays; whitewash
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New Source and new congressman
1 posted on 09/20/2005 9:08:32 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine
Let the sunshine,
Let the sunshine in.
The sun, shine in!
2 posted on 09/20/2005 9:19:07 PM PDT by philman_36 (Remember Alberto Sepulveda!)
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To: bobsunshine
YIKES!! Dr. Eileen sounds very interesting!!

I couldn't be more disappointed than I am at Rumsfeld....I can't figure this out.

3 posted on 09/20/2005 9:19:12 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: bobsunshine
I beginning this could get w's good billy boob in serious trouble if everybody is trying to piss on it.
4 posted on 09/20/2005 9:19:51 PM PDT by dts32041 ( Robin Hood, stealing from the government and giving back to tax payer. Where is he today?)
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To: Suzy Quzy

He is trying to get a handle on it before it blows up, but it may have already done so?


5 posted on 09/20/2005 9:22:44 PM PDT by dts32041 ( Robin Hood, stealing from the government and giving back to tax payer. Where is he today?)
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To: bobsunshine
I've covered this in more detail on another thread. It is both a criminal act and a civil wrong for anyone to interfere with a government employee's honest testimony before a congressional committee. The only exception is that the President is immune from the civil suit.

I know this for sure, because I represented Earnest Fitzgerald against Richard Nixon in the US Supreme Court on this precise issue.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Kathleen Blanco: Beyond Gross Public Dumb"

6 posted on 09/20/2005 9:45:50 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (This Freeper was linked for the 2nd time by Rush Limbaugh today (9/13/05). Hoohah!)
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To: bobsunshine

Everyone up to Rumsfeld himself must be dragged in to answer for this. If Rummy won't permit their testimony, he should be removed from office.


7 posted on 09/20/2005 9:48:24 PM PDT by montag813
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To: bobsunshine

How far will Bush go to protect the Clintons? We are about to find out.


8 posted on 09/20/2005 9:50:51 PM PDT by montag813
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I don't know... I really have mixed feelings about this.

It is very difficult for me to believe that Rumsfeld would do this capriciously or just to cover someone's POLITICAL posterior.

The only way I could see it is that it is to protect some intellegence asset(s) currently "in place" and producing high value intel... So high a value that keeping them in place is more important for the future than pulling them out so that we can further discredit the previous administration and the joke of a 9-11 Commission.

As much as I'd like to see the evil and / or incompetent people in the previous (and current) administrations and the bureaupaths in the Defense and Intel agencies brought down, if there is a good source at risk I'd rather wait a couple of years than lose someone that might be able to give us information that will prevent a major terror attack or even worse.

You certainly can't tell a Senate Committee oe even a Congressional investigation any sensitive, much less critical, life or death secret.... It will be leaked within minutes. There aren't three Senators or more than a dozen Representatives that can be trusted with national security secrets.

Other than that though, if this is just political posterior covering.... Then Sec. Rumsfeld (Who I have always admired and always thought was the best SecDef we ever had) deserves to hang with whoever is responsible for this debacle in the first place.


9 posted on 09/20/2005 10:26:27 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: montag813
How far will Bush go to protect the Clintons?

How does this protect Clinton?

10 posted on 09/20/2005 10:56:36 PM PDT by fooblier
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To: Suzy Quzy

Rummy may be concerned that the Democrats on the Committee will ask questions regarding OTHER classified information and/or operations.


11 posted on 09/20/2005 10:57:34 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: fooblier

If I recall correctly, the assumption is that Able Danger reported its findings during the Clinton adminstration and were squelched by the wall built between the CIA and FBI. The Bush administration likely would have had little knowledge of the Able Danger findings since the CIA under Clinton dismissed the info.

I'm sure we will find out more.


12 posted on 09/20/2005 11:03:59 PM PDT by BigYellowDog
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To: bobsunshine

After all the things Bill Clinton said about the President this past week, Bush's administration STILL is going to incredible lengths to protect Clinton's administration. Unbelievable. The worst part is that this is at the sacrifice of our national security.


13 posted on 09/20/2005 11:10:16 PM PDT by SunnyD1182
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To: LegendHasIt

This may not be Rummy's fault. Although staffed my military personnel, DoD's legal department is mainly semi-autonomous and not always answerable to either the military or civilian chain of command.


14 posted on 09/20/2005 11:19:36 PM PDT by tanuki
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To: bobsunshine

More information is great, but Hurricane Rita will dominate the news. If all of this drips out in a quieter time it is more likely to get the attention in deserves.


15 posted on 09/21/2005 12:31:32 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: bobsunshine
My read of this is that Rumsfield is moving to force Specter to issue subpoenas and go behind closed doors. This is top secret stuff and needs to stay that way. More important than hanging Clintoon and Gore lick. Maybe there will surface a way to do all.
16 posted on 09/21/2005 12:39:45 AM PDT by mercy (THY Kingdom come. THY will be done. On earth .... as it is in heaven.)
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To: bobsunshine
Members of the now disbanded commission and the Pentagon have dismissed Weldon's claim as bogus, saying that no confirmation could be found despite a massive search of Pentagon files and numerous interviews with military intelligence officials.

"Bluntly, it just did not happen," said commissioner Slade Gorton, a former senator from Washington State, at a press conference here last week.

Well then.... the 9/11 Commission says there's nothing to all this silly "Able Danger" stuff, nothing at all.
And after all, they should know. They investigated the terror attacks thoroughly and in an objective, non-partisan manner.
Jamie Gorelick and Company left no stone unturned.

17 posted on 09/21/2005 12:56:24 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Kleinstadt received the orders to destroy the Able Danger database. Specter's insistence that the hearings go forward probably hinges on Kleinstadt's ability to testify to the information that got destroyed, who ordered its destruction, and why. From that point, the committee could unravel an entire command sequence that will uncover how Able Danger got missed by the 9/11 Commission.

Let the butt-covering begin!

18 posted on 09/21/2005 2:42:53 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the looting! The IRS hates competition.)
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To: bobsunshine
Mr. Specter said ... ....

"There are quite a few credible people who are prepared to testify that Mohamed Atta was identified long before 9/11," he said. "Now maybe there's more than one Mohamed Atta. Or maybe there's some mistake. But that's what we're trying to find out."

What a very curious thing to say "... more than one ..." -- by someone who always chooses his words and phrases so very carefully, especially when he lies. And no, I don't trust Domocrat/Republican Specter as far as I could throw him.

19 posted on 09/21/2005 4:02:15 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: brityank

That's a laughable statement. Specter knows it was THE Atta. They also identified others in his Brooklyn cell, IIRC.
I think this was said more for a diplomatic purpose than nay other.

But I don't trust him either.


20 posted on 09/21/2005 4:10:39 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the looting! The IRS hates competition.)
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