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Able Danger: Pentagon Spikes Witnesses While Shaffer Reveals New Source
Captains Quarters ^ | September 20, 2005 | Captain Ed

Posted on 09/20/2005 9:08:30 PM PDT by bobsunshine

Able Danger: Pentagon Spikes Witnesses While Shaffer Reveals New Source

The New York Times reports this evening that the Pentagon has blocked its military witnesses from testifying on Able Danger at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings tomorrow. Senator Arlen Specter registered his surprise but plans on holding the hearings anyway (h/t: AJ Strata):

The Pentagon said today that it had blocked a group of military officers and intelligence analysts from testifying at an open Congressional hearing about a highly classified military intelligence program that, the officers have said, identified a ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks as a potential terrorist more than a year before the attacks.

The announcement came a day before the officers and intelligence analysts had been scheduled to testify about the program, known as Able Danger, at a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee. ...

Mr. Specter said his staff had talked to all five of the potential witnesses and found that "credibility has been established" for all of them.

"There are quite a few credible people who are prepared to testify that Mohamed Atta was identified long before 9/11," he said. "Now maybe there's more than one Mohamed Atta. Or maybe there's some mistake. But that's what we're trying to find out."

The Pentagon might think that withdrawing its witnesses will keep Able Danger from breaking wide open, but they will find themselves sorely mistaken. This only demonstrates that the program found something that the Pentagon still wants hidden. If that includes a finding that their program not only found Atta and other AQ terrorists over a year before the attacks, but also predicted the USS Cole attack three weeks before it happened, and that the Pentagon shut down the program anyway, eighteen Senators will want to know why.

In fact, the withdrawal of the witnesses clearly shows that the story has substance and isn't a case of mistaken identity. Had this just been an identification of a second Mohammed Atta, as Specter postulates, the Pentagon should have no problem putting its witnesses on the stand. Nothing about a mistaken identity would create a classification problem for the hearing tomorrow.

QT Monster has a transcript from tonight's interview of LTC Tony Shaffer on the Jerry Doyle radio show. Shaffer says Donald Rumsfeld himself gave the order to stop the witnesses from appearing at the Judiciary Committee hearing:

JD: Well, when you say DoD, where's this coming from at DoD? Is this instructions to DoD from higher ups? Is this people in DoD who are afraid of what information gets out? I mean who is the person who's making this happen? AS: What I will tell you is I was told by 2 DoD officials today directly that it is their understanding that the Secretary of Defense directed that we not testify tomorrow. That is my understanding.

However, Shaffer says that former Major Eric Kleinstadt, now a civilian contractor, will still testify at the panel. Kleinstadt received the orders to destroy the Able Danger database. Specter's insistence that the hearings go forward probably hinges on Kleinstadt's ability to testify to the information that got destroyed, who ordered its destruction, and why. From that point, the committee could unravel an entire command sequence that will uncover how Able Danger got missed by the 9/11 Commission.

Another interesting fact got mentioned in Shaffer's interview. He spoke about a Dr. Eileen Pricer. One of the more mysterious potential sources of the Able Danger story involved a female PhD that could corroborate Shaffer and Phillpott, the woman who actually developed the Atta identification in the first place. I Googled Eileen Pricer and got just one hit -- but it's a doozy.

It turns out that Dr. Pricer testified before a closed session of Congressional subcommittee on national security exactly one month after 9/11. That testimony isn't available, but Rep. Christopher Shays mentions her on the record in the next day's public testimony:

Mr. Shays. In a briefing we had yesterday, we had Eileen Pricer, who argues that we don't have the data we need because we don't take all the public data that is available and mix it with the security data. And just taking public data, using, you know, computer systems that are high-speed and able to digest, you know, literally floors' worth of material, she can take relationships that are seven times removed, seven units removed, and when she does that, she ends up with relationships to the bin Laden group where she sees the purchase of chemicals, the sending of students to universities. You wouldn't see it if you isolated it there, but if that unit is connected to that unit, which is connected to that unit, which is connected to that unit, you then see the relationship. So we don't know ultimately the authenticity of how she does it, but when she does it, she comes up with the kind of answer that you have just asked, which is a little unsettling. Unsettling? Christopher Shays described Able Danger thirty-one days after the 9/11 attacks. What else did Eileen Pricer tell the Congressional subcommittee on national security on October 11, 2001? Did Pricer tell Shays that the information no longer existed but did at one time?

Senator Specter should invite Christopher Shays to have a seat on the witness bench, and he should also start issuing subpoenas for the witnesses that the Pentagon wants to silence. We need answers, and we need to know that our country will fight terrorism with every tool at its disposal.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; abledanger; atta; coverup; eileenpricer; gorelickwall; pricer; sept11; shays; whitewash
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To: Txsleuth
I was doing some research last week and noticed that Richard Clarke's testimony (page 52) to the Intelligence Committee in 2002 spoke of tracking students with visas from terrorist countries. It also states that Congress actually mandated an experimental program that was funded for one year. Maybe that was Able Danger? Everyone keeps telling me that Clarke was with the NSC rather than the NSA, and therefore would not be involved, but considering he was in cybersecurity, I still smell a rat.

The testimony is available in .pdf format {ugh} here

161 posted on 09/21/2005 8:08:22 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Peach

Specter: Info in the public domain is not classified?

Answer: No. Anything that was problematic (paraphrase) could be testified to in executive session.


162 posted on 09/21/2005 8:08:22 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Peach

I just checked out the other thread--stay here, it's better and far more complete


163 posted on 09/21/2005 8:09:20 AM PDT by fqued (You don't have to fight every fight, you don't have to win every battle.)
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To: Peach

Shaffer would have testified to the work AD was doing, that they had created numerous charts that dealt with AQ, had a photo of Atta which was not the same photo we've seen in the news or by fed goverment or 9/11 Commission.

He remembers it specifically because of the evil look in Atta's face. He conversed with other members of his team and they met with Hadley to turn over the chart and they thought the info was passed and my job is over.


164 posted on 09/21/2005 8:09:29 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Peach; Admin Moderator
Should we ask the mods to make this the live thread?

Yes / No, I'm so confused.

165 posted on 09/21/2005 8:09:33 AM PDT by McGruff (Woof!!)
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To: Bahbah

This is amazing testimony...confusing as all get out..but I have a feeling now that Sessions is involved it won't be swept under the rug...


166 posted on 09/21/2005 8:09:43 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington, Texas--future home of the Dallas Cowboys!)
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To: fqued

A couple of you have said that - thanks. We'll stay here.


167 posted on 09/21/2005 8:10:04 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Txsleuth

HERE is Shaffer's interview section with GSN Magazine: 9/05

GSN:
How soon after the 9/11 attack did you realize that Able Danger had actually identified about a year earlier the Brooklyn cell and several of the actual 9/11 terrorists, including Mohammed Atta?

SHAFFER:
It was within two weeks of 9/11, when one of my colleagues, who had kept one of the charts, called me and said, “You’re not going to believe this. He’s on one of our charts -- Atta.” I just felt this sinking in the pit of my stomach like, “You’ve got to be kidding me.”


168 posted on 09/21/2005 8:10:10 AM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: McGruff

LOL.

Shaffer says the Commission never called him back. Called a week later and Commission said that's okay, we don't need to talk with you.


169 posted on 09/21/2005 8:10:52 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Txsleuth

Who is this who is asking questions now?


170 posted on 09/21/2005 8:11:11 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Peach

Let's pick this one.

I'm tired of jumping from one to the other.


171 posted on 09/21/2005 8:11:18 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: ravingnutter
I read some where that Clarke was his own entity inside the State Department and Powell and or Condi shut him down, moved him under some other intelligence umbrella. My head is spinning.
172 posted on 09/21/2005 8:11:27 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: Peach

Jeff Sessions


173 posted on 09/21/2005 8:12:30 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington, Texas--future home of the Dallas Cowboys!)
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To: Peach

Question: You felt the advice was consistent with existing army regulations. Did your client feel info didn't have to be deleted.

Zaid: Clients felt they had put into place numerous safeguards so that concern would not rise to the level of destroying information.

They felt they took steps beyond what was relayed by attorneys but at the end of the day, the attorneys won out.


174 posted on 09/21/2005 8:12:32 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Peach

Sessions: When we have crazy rules it is up to the Congress who deserves the criticism. (That's for sure!)


175 posted on 09/21/2005 8:13:27 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: defconw

I can't help but get pizzed, after hearing that a brand new, tiny program outperformed the CIA...and they killed it!


176 posted on 09/21/2005 8:14:40 AM PDT by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Peach

I am confused. What attorneys? Who were they (attorneys) answering to?


177 posted on 09/21/2005 8:15:31 AM PDT by p_n_m
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To: Peach; everyone

Who had the chart on his wall until 2004--congressman Weldon?


178 posted on 09/21/2005 8:15:51 AM PDT by fqued (You don't have to fight every fight, you don't have to win every battle.)
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To: Wristpin
Tell me about, all these pizzing contests and protection of territory is going to get us all killed.
179 posted on 09/21/2005 8:15:55 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: Peach

DIA - 2004

L.E. Jacoby,
Vice Admiral, U.S. Navy,
Director


180 posted on 09/21/2005 8:16:13 AM PDT by kcvl
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