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To: curiosity

Evolution is easy for Catholics.

God created the world.
Evolution is probably how He did it.
He directly creates our souls, dips them in flesh for awhile, and then calls them back to Himself.

Why?
Because it pleases Him.

Nothing to see here, move along.


5 posted on 09/20/2005 5:40:59 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13
There's nothing uniquely Catholic about that position. There is no logical reason Protestants can't accept it too.
10 posted on 09/20/2005 5:45:15 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Vicomte13

If you are a thinking Catholic, Evolution should not be 'easy' for you. First of all, it is a postulation, not a a proven, or even provable belief. Secondly, if their was never a Fall, then their is no need of a Savior. If we are only getting better all the time, all we have to do is wait. None of that messy Cross or Salvation stuff is needed.


13 posted on 09/20/2005 5:46:01 PM PDT by keithtoo (Howard Dean is a Rove plant, Rove is a NeoCon plant, NeoCons are Trilateralist plants....)
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To: Vicomte13
Evolution is easy for Catholics those who will not take God at His word.
Genesis 2 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground
That's macro-evolution. One infinitesimal step for God. One giant leap for (unbelieving) mankind.
17 posted on 09/20/2005 5:48:59 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Vicomte13
Do you believe the Holy Spirit inspired the authors of the Books listed below. The Holy Spirit is part of the Godhead in case you didn't know. Because He is God, He would have to be inspiring foolish errors if what you say were true.

BEWARE, unleashing the Lion of the Tribe of Judah can be harmful to your worldview! (Red letters indicate words spoken by Jesus)

Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses,...

Rom 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

1Cr 15:54-55
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

Isa 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, [even] my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

Isa 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else.

Isa 40:21-22
Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?

Isa 64:4 For since the beginning of the world [men] have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, [what] he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Gen 5:1 This [is] the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

Deu 4:32 For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth,

Gen 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

New Testament references to Adam.

Luk 3:38 Which was [the son] of Enos, which was [the son] of Seth, which was [the son] of Adam, which was [the son] of God.

1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul;

Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

186 posted on 09/20/2005 10:00:01 PM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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To: Vicomte13
Nice summation of why many or most scientists actually profess a belief in God.

They study and are fascinated by the intricacies of nature's mechanisms. Most of them can grasp that the existence and infinite subtlety of those mechanisms, much less our ability to observe, interpret, and appreciate them, implies the existence of a "creator". Far from disproving the existence of God (physical science can hardly ever "prove" or "disprove" anything - that is the realm of logic and mathematics), science helps us understand how the physical universe operates and allows us to manipulate its forces, for good or ill.

To the extent that there are some teachers who don't understand this and tell their students that "see, this is scientific and God had nothing to do with it" then the teaching of evolution as a "fact" instead of a theory that complies with what we observe in nature, then I can see why the devoutly religious resent it. But I'm not particularly comfortable with the alternative of forcing the teaching of the Biblical story of creation or Intelligent Design by law or edict of a school board either.

215 posted on 09/21/2005 5:57:22 AM PDT by katana
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To: Vicomte13

Evolution is easy for Fundamental Baptists as well.

God created everything in seven days and evolution is wrong.


236 posted on 09/21/2005 8:18:30 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Christian, Comedian, Husband,Opa, Dog Owner, former Cat Co-dweller, and all around good guy.)
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