If you are a thinking Catholic, Evolution should not be 'easy' for you. First of all, it is a postulation, not a a proven, or even provable belief. Secondly, if their was never a Fall, then their is no need of a Savior. If we are only getting better all the time, all we have to do is wait. None of that messy Cross or Salvation stuff is needed.
Evolution isn't improvement. I hope you know more about theology than science.
Nothing it science is ever proven. However, evolution, like other well-established scientific theories, has a mountain of evidence supporting it.
Secondly, if their was never a Fall, then their is no need of a Savior
How exactly does evolution contradict the Fall? Man evolved, God revealed himself to him, and then man rejected God. What's the problem?
No. It is a theory which accounts for known facts and makes predictions about unknown facts.
Why are you using all of these other terms, like "proven" and "provable" and "belief" when science deals in facts (data), hypotheses, theories, etc.? Have you not read the previous threads on this site, or do you just not believe them?
"If you are a thinking Catholic, Evolution should not be 'easy' for you. First of all, it is a postulation, not a a proven, or even provable belief. Secondly, if their was never a Fall, then their is no need of a Savior. If we are only getting better all the time, all we have to do is wait. None of that messy Cross or Salvation stuff is needed."
What does the process by which God made us have to do with the sinful nature, the fall of each and every man?
Read Genesis very, very carefully and realize what it is: it is autobiographical. It is the story of YOUR life, from creation, through awakening to good and evil, and the fall that comes from that. And how you cannot go home to that innocence again, ever.
The Gospels do tell you how you can reconcile to God.
Genesis 1 is not a history of an ancient past. It is the literal autobiography of your own early years of life. Of every single man's and woman's. That is what God meant by it. Indeed, it is the most intensely personal aspect of the whole Bible, aimed by God directly at telling our own personal story to each of us.
We are born naked and innocent, and we awaken to shame and discover we are naked, and with sin, and we hide from God and are banished from that free and easy association we had with Him when we were very tiny and still remembered what God was like. We grow. We become strong, and violent. We are forced to earn our living by the sweat of our brow. We are tempted into many sins, many sins. And we die. Adam. Eve. You. Me.
That is what Genesis is. The story of you and Your Own Fall. And Mine. And His and Hers.
Read it again and remember that.
Then turn to the Gospels and focus on what God had to say to us when He came to Earth in the flesh, because that's what matters now.
Bickering over the biological origins of life and how we descended from primates, or not, because of sentences of Genesis that are really about YOU and not biology texts, takes us away from God and from each other. We already went astray in our youth. Genesis reminds us all about it, that moment when our individual innocence ended, we KNEW good from evil, but we chose the evil because it tasted EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD (didn't it?). And then we were ashamed and clothed ourselves.
We all fell.
We almost all remember it, more or less.
Let's face the truth and not try to cast Genesis 1 off into ancient history, as though it's not relentlessly telling the story of our own individual lives, naked before the whole world.
Because that's what it's about.
"If we are only getting better all the time, all we have to do is wait."
The idea that we are getting better all the time is not part of evolution. It stems from a misconception of evolution. For example, snakes evolved from more complex animals that used to have legs (I believe.) Evolution can move in any direction, toward more complexity or less complexity.
Over time, according to the theory of evolution, a particular organism tends to become more perfectly adapted to the particular environment, it is in. Inevitably, the environment changes making that organism suddenly less adapted to its environment.
Secondly, if their was never a Fall, then their is no need of a Savior."
I confess puzzlement at this statement...
"If we are only getting better all the time, all we have to do is wait. None of that messy Cross or Salvation stuff is needed."
I found the problem. Evolution does not say we are "getting better" (or, for that matter, that we are "getting worse"). It says nothing at all about Man's relationship to God.
First of all, it is a postulation, not a a proven, or even provable belief.
In this context, what's a 'proven' belief and what's a 'provable belief'? Also, please give examples?