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Generation X-plorers Energized by NASA's New Plans
Space.com ^ | September 20, 2005 | Tim Bailey. adAstra

Posted on 09/20/2005 2:35:00 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

After a decade of waiting, young space enthusiasts across the country are celebrating a new plan that will take them and their colleagues to the Moon and on to Mars.

"I have been waiting a long time for NASA to go beyond low Earth orbit!" said 26-year-old aerospace engineer Alicia Evans, "If they need volunteers, I am there."

The new plan is set to fit within the current NASA budget, a major change from space exploration programs of the past. Loretta Hidalgo, 31-year-old president of the Space Generation Foundation, says, "What it will give us is more bang for our space buck."

NASA has also built the next generation of space entrepreneurs into the plan, showing an unprecedented level of support for new space players like 30-something Elon Musk. (Musk founded and sold the popular internet payment site PayPal before beginning his latest venture, launch company Space Exploration Technologies). The new plan will provide contracting opportunities to stimulate a healthy entrepreneurial space sector in low Earth orbit while NASA focuses on the next frontier.

The Next Gen spacers see the new Moon missions as a giant leap forward from Apollo. The lunar crews will be able to stay for seven days instead of just three, while benefiting from 40 years of advances in materials science and computing. They will able to land anywhere on the Moon -- including the polar craters, thought to be a possible hiding place for water. There's even a plan for a lunar outpost in the works, capable of stays measured in months, not days.

The overall goal is to pave the way for outposts and human missions in a sustainable way so that the exploration will continue indefinitely. This is important to a generation who grew up seeing the Earth as a fragile blue marble, and who have felt the disappointment of space programs being cancelled just as they were reading about them in their copies of Ranger Rick.

The plan is designed with future Mars missions in mind. The launch vehicle, the number of crew the CEV can carry and even the type of fuel the Lunar Ascent Vehicle uses are all consistent with what is needed for the next step in exploration: sending humans on to Mars. That is the opportunity many of the next generation have been waiting for their whole lives.

"We now have an opportunity for our generation to make our mark on human history," said George Whitesides, Executive Director of the National Space Society, age 31. "Our parents and grandparents took us to the Moon the first time. Now it's time for us to go back to the Moon to stay, and then head straight for Mars."

NASA Administrator Mike Griffin said that science will dictate where to land and what to do while we are there. "Now is the time to be in school for a science degree," added Evans, "because it will be our generation out there exploring the Moon." With the first missions to the lunar surface set to begin in 2018, it won't just be Shuttle-era astronauts getting moon dust on their boots. The under-40 engineers now working on tough science questions will be the core of the NASA workforce in 13 years. This means jobs as mission controllers, vehicle support specialists, and, yes, lunar and martian astronauts.

As John F. Kennedy said 43 years ago, it will not be easy to go to the moon, but the goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills. Generation X-plorers are chomping at the bit to test themselves against the challenge of their lives. Ad Astra!


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KEYWORDS: adventure; economy; education; exploration; genx; lunarbase; moon; nasa; nationalsecurity; rockets; space
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To: Spiff
plus into developing and constructing the first space elevator after which it will be easier to construct more

There are some real problems due to lunar tides and a non spherical Earth that may preclude such an endeavor.

41 posted on 09/20/2005 5:33:42 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Spiff
We're BETTER THAN THAT!!

Doc

42 posted on 09/20/2005 5:37:38 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: RKV; Spiff
Spiff, Excuse me for asking, but how much experience do you have in manned spaceflight or aerospace? Me I was in for 15 years - for calibration.

27 years and counting for me so far. Design and flight operations.

I have seen personally what gold plated requirements do to program cost and schedule. Yeah, its early days for Rutan. He also has a proven track record of getting a lot done for minimal money. We need much more like that and a lot less like what I saw when I worked on NASA and DOD spaceflight/satellite programs.

Rutan was able to use data from both the Air Force and NASA that cost billions of dollars and many years to produce.

43 posted on 09/20/2005 5:40:20 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Spiff

I'm thinking on the scale of Dyson Spheres, Von Neumann probes, etc.

And here all I could think of was a new home for the Palestinian state, and not a jew for parsecs.
Course it might get a little cold way out there...


44 posted on 09/20/2005 5:40:59 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RKV
the science missions do seem to perk along, but they cost way too much.

Ever "fly" a spacecraft to another planet? I have. The scientific return is exceptional for the money spent IMHO.

45 posted on 09/20/2005 5:42:39 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

GMTA!!! :-)


46 posted on 09/20/2005 5:43:49 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Spiff
It isn't martial law.... It's Martian law (vague Sealab 2021 reference). ;-)
47 posted on 09/20/2005 5:48:05 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Behold thy mother." -Our Lord Jesus Christ, John 19: 27)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Never said that the state of the art wasn't improved by all the big science money that was thrown at it. When I first started working on CADCAM in 1981 it took the equivalent of a mid-frame computer to run and we now do it with a pc. That said, do we need to pay all over again to get into earth orbit? I hope not. Rutan will be able to get into orbit in 2-3 years I bet. Can NASA replace the aging shuttle in that timeframe? No. Can we get to L4, L5 or to the moon with pretty much the same technology as will get Rutan into orbit? Yes. Can't STAY there for very long and that's what does in a manned Mars mission now (given what lack of gravity does to human health). And yep, space science gets done unmanned and with comparatively little funding doesn't it?
48 posted on 09/20/2005 5:58:25 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: qam1

heads up, Generation Reagan! Red Dawn just started on Spike TV.


49 posted on 09/20/2005 6:05:49 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: RKV
SIGH!

I Honestly Believe that the VAST MAJORITY of Americans WANT to "Go Back to the Moon!!"

Doc

50 posted on 09/20/2005 6:06:23 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: Doc On The Bay

I do. Don't get me wrong here.


51 posted on 09/20/2005 6:26:46 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RKV

I am in favor of going to the Moon. However, it will take billions. That is just the simple truth.


52 posted on 09/20/2005 6:28:44 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Doc On The Bay

And the reason the taxpayers should pay for another trip to the moon is?


53 posted on 09/20/2005 6:44:18 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; RadioAstronomer; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; ...
I was born a few months after Apollo 13. This time we are going back and we are going to stay...


54 posted on 09/20/2005 6:51:03 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; RadioAstronomer; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; ...
I was born a few months after Apollo 13. This time we are going back and we are going to stay...


55 posted on 09/20/2005 6:51:17 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Generation X-plorers are chomping at the bit to test themselves against the challenge of their lives.

Generation X-plorers don't have a clue about what it takes to get into space.

In past generations not knowing that something is impossible was a virtue - they had the basic math and science skills to figure it out as they go.

Generation X-plorers not only don't know what they don't know, they don't even know what they think they know. In manned spaceflight that kind of arrogance can be fatal.

56 posted on 09/20/2005 7:02:52 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: Doc On The Bay
We're BETTER THAN THAT!!

I assume that you're referring to my statement that we're only a Type-0 civilization. Kaku says we're Type-0 on the Kardashev scale. Sagan has put a finer edge on it and said we're at 0.7 - still a Type-0. We have not achieved Type-I and we won't for some time. Sorry to burst your bubble.

57 posted on 09/20/2005 10:26:59 PM PDT by Spiff (I think that looters AND people who continue to misspell "Martial Law" should be shot.)
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To: anymouse

Well, there are a lot of baby-boomers who have been waiting for this opportunity too.


58 posted on 09/21/2005 2:42:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RadioAstronomer
I'm speaking of the Saganization of NASA and the "search for life" mentality.

Sagan was all the rage and when Golden took the helm. Sagan immediately swooped in, grabbed his ear and that's all she wrote.

Now NASA is back in the business of exploration - rockets, bases, mining, etc - not planning missions around finding life (if it's there we'll trip over it). Now we can build an infrastructure and learn to live off planet.

I know there are a lot of groups involved here and competing scientists (that's why scientists shouldn't run NASA) - people were told Mars was the end all and be all of space exploration - now the game plan has changed. Then there's the robot vs man groups and astronomers who don't think the Moon is good for astronomy (I can't figure that one out). If U.S. astronomers don't want to go along for the ride, there are astronomers from other countries willing to fill the void.
59 posted on 09/21/2005 2:57:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Spiff

We're actually a primitive Type 13 planet, according to 790.


60 posted on 09/21/2005 3:09:05 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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