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To: Mark Felton
You don't understand, but instead prefer to score points with insults.

I understand perfectly - your posts are gobbledygook. Why they are so is not a subject that particularly interests me, but they are. As for "insults", the ridiculous has a habit of gathering ridicule unto itself.

We do not understand any system without understanding the forces operating upon it.

I've already explained to you that the chemistry of biological systems is no different than any other sort of chemistry. The same "forces" that have caused the car that's currently sitting on blocks in your front yard to rust are responsible for driving the chemical reactions that make up living things. For whatever reason, you are apparently declining to accept this. The nature of the universe is not contingent upon your acceptance, however.

Furthermore, all such systems must have initial conditions. A point from which the modelling proceeds.

The theory of evolution is a descriptive theory. I don't know quite what you think is being modelled here, but I would point out that you don't need to know where every molecule in the atmosphere was last July to know that New Orleans is currently underwater.

You on the other hand believe we do not need to understand the forces on life. In fact you deny it exists.

On the contrary, DNA is quite adequately described by the regular, boring old laws of chemistry. Evolution is quite adequately explained by the principle of natural selection. Apparently this is not sufficient for you. Oh, well.

You do not know the initial conditions, nor the primary force behind life.

I don't think you have anything resembling a cogent argument. I think what you have is a bunch of pseudo-technical jargon deployed as a means of "rebutting" something that you plainly don't understand. JMO.

672 posted on 09/20/2005 8:27:21 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: general_re
" I don't think you have anything resembling a cogent argument"

Your entire argument and debate rests on "my freshman biology teacher says so"?

LOL.

Your lack of comprehension of fundamental science is not my problem.

You lack even a junior high education in critical thinking skills and analytical science. It is not my responsibility to bring your skills up to par in order to participate in an intelligent way.

As for my "jargon", there is nothing pseudo about it. I've led R&D projects succesfully for over 20 years. You had some biology class somewhere? LOL.

You cannot grasp how to begin formulating a theory. Then you expect to hide behind your biology teacher when asked pointed questions?

Next time bring your teacher to the debate. Your teacher will also tell you that current biology does not explain the origins of life (at least not with any more than pure conjecture, acts of faith.)

The sad thing is that your faith is destroyed by simple logic, because no science justifies it.

My faith is strengthened by science because science is the unveiling of Gods creation.

681 posted on 09/20/2005 8:54:33 PM PDT by Mark Felton (Those who despise instruction despise their own soul...)
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