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To: Mark Felton; PatrickHenry
Last try: We do not understand any system without understanding the forces operating upon it

Every complex system has an appropriate level of study. A study of quarks does not(yet) tell us how the properties of water emerge from hydrogen and oxygen. Nor does biochemistry tell us when and how to do the Heimlich maneuver.

The science of genetics made a great deal of progress before DNA was discovered and decoded.

You are asserting that nothing is known until everything is known -- an assertion so monumentally stupid as to qualify for an entire new double-wide in the the museum of regrettable posts.

670 posted on 09/20/2005 8:17:40 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138; Doctor Stochastic
You are asserting that nothing is known until everything is known...

I like how the standard for "knowledge" is now set so high that we can never really know anything at all. Since we're not now - nor will we ever be - omniscient, we can't ever understand anything. I know that the good doctor has remarked on the similarities between creationists and postmodernists before, but it is rather rare that we are presented with a live example of same. My guess is that if this one were a programmer, he'd get an awful lot of scope errors, and yet never quite figure out why.

675 posted on 09/20/2005 8:34:12 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: js1138
"You are asserting that nothing is known until everything is known -- an assertion so monumentally stupid as to qualify for an entire new double-wide in the the museum of regrettable posts."

Certainly regrettable for you since you made yourself look the fool.

Now go back and tell me where I said "nothing is known until everything is known" Go ahead. Take your time.

Don't ever put words in my mouth, it as an act of utter desperation in an attempt to save your pride.

As for me, I am done. I have a hurricane to prepare for. We are evacuating.

"A scoffer seeks wisdom and finds none,
But knowledge is easy to one who has understanding.
Leave the presence of a fool, Or you will not discern words of knowledge.
The wisdom of the sensible is to understand his way, But the foolishness of fools is deceit. "
-- proverbs 14:6-8

689 posted on 09/20/2005 9:11:46 PM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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