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War enters 5th year: Why not victory?
Backbone America ^ | September 18th, 2005 | John Andrews

Posted on 09/18/2005 7:34:47 PM PDT by logician2u

War enters 5th year: Why not victory?

(John Andrews in the Denver Post, Sept. 18) Why not victory? The question haunted me all day on Sept. 11, the fourth anniversary of Islamofascist military attacks against America's seat of self-government, Washington, and our crown jewel of liberty, New York. We are a nation supposedly at war, yet the enemy is not identified, the definition of winning is vague, the national will is weak. The war itself is misnamed and undeclared.

In my town, Centennial, which firmly supports President Bush and the Republican Congress, not one house in 20 flew the flag last Sunday in memory of the Sept. 11 heroes, or in token of the will to avenge them and secure our freedom by defeating the global jihadist enemy. At my church there was but passing mention of the World Trade Center atrocity, and no mention of the unfinished conflict it ignited.

That Saturday I was at two gatherings where the national anthem was sung, a statewide conservative conference and the Caulkins opera house opening gala. Little of the somber tone of wartime was felt at either of them. You can bet that on Friday, the day before, imams in countless mosques around the world -- including many right here -- were revisiting the glories of destruction on that fall day in 2001, and inciting the faithful to further bloodshed for Allah.

But the Twin Towers and Pentagon anniversary was largely crowded off weekend front pages by Katrina coverage in both the Post and the News. The Post did find room for a story headlined, "Muslims say fear lingers." The Gulf Coast hurricane and the Islamist act of war were paired as twin "tragedies" in a Rocky headline on Sept. 12.

Look, storm devastation compounded with human failings is a tragedy -- but a sneak attack on our homeland by foreigners bent on killing us by the millions and subjugating America to Muslim theocracy is not. It is, or should have been, a fearsome warning to mobilize this mighty land militarily, diplomatically, economically, and spiritually for total self-defense and ferocious counterattack, never slackening until the enemy is crushed.

Tragedy, hell. This is war, and not just a war on "terror." Certain Muslim groups and Muslim countries are out to break the U.S. and its free-world allies, dating from at least 1979 when they hit us in Tehran. Their side is bent on victory. Our side, up to this point, clearly is not.

Coping, managing the problem, at most swatting the enemy, seems to be the extent of our objective. While Bush has been far better than Clinton, cleaning the Taliban out of Afghanistan and removing Saddam, the latter-day Hitler, from Iraq, he hasn't done nearly enough.

Since my lists in previous columns caused a gratifying stir with readers, here's my "Why Not Victory?" list:

1. Address Congress and call this what it is, World War IV.

2. Send another 50,000 troops to Iraq.

3. Increase the defense budget by $200 billion.

4. Institute a draft for the armed forces.

5. Declare war on Syria.

6. Put Cheney over a task force to find Bin Laden, Zawahiri, and Zarqawi.

7. Name a Democrat, perhaps Lieberman or Bayh, as Homeland Security secretary.

8. Militarize the Mexican border.

9. Summon the leaders of Muslim nations to the woodshed in Washington.

10. Assemble democracy activists from Muslim nations at Independence Hall.

11. Intensify FBI surveillance of Islamofascist front groups in the U.S.

12. Break relations with the Palestinian Authority.

13. Speed up Saddam Hussein's trial and urge his execution.

14. Indict Kofi Annan and notify the United Nations to relocate overseas.

15. Convene a Warsaw summit of the democracies toward replacing the UN.

Katrina was horrific, to be sure. But so were the 1918 flu epidemic and 1943 race riots, little remembered today. What then mattered most was winning the first and second world wars. What matters supremely today is winning this world war. America again stands in mortal peril. Statesmen, defined on this page last week by Paul Johnson as "selfless leaders ... seeking the common good," are greatly needed. Their stark challenge to all of us must be: Why not victory?



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1 posted on 09/18/2005 7:34:47 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u

The only way to win the War Against Terror is to forget political correctness. And very few of our elected officials, Democrat or Republican alike, have been willing to do that.


2 posted on 09/18/2005 7:36:28 PM PDT by nj26
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To: logician2u

I suspect one reason for our armed forces to be dynamically deployed is that socialism thrives in attacking a static defense. There is a fog of war which will remain present in western democracies as long as socialism is allowed to continue.


3 posted on 09/18/2005 7:38:16 PM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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"4. Institute a draft for the armed forces."

That would last approximately 13 months until Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi took over Congress in November 2006.

A draft would decimate the Republican party.


4 posted on 09/18/2005 7:38:18 PM PDT by nj26
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To: logician2u
The "war" started on February 26, 1993, which is 12.5 years ago, not 5 years!

It's already longer than the Viet Nam War.

5 posted on 09/18/2005 7:39:02 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: logician2u

US OUT OF IRAQ

And INTO Syria!!


6 posted on 09/18/2005 7:43:44 PM PDT by msnimje (Cogito Ergo Sum Republican)
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To: All

Thanks for your replies. I have a minor emergency and will have to respond more fully later . . I hope.


7 posted on 09/18/2005 7:48:40 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u

Islam is the problem and until a leader stands up and shows that he wasn't castrated by either the DNC or the RNC, terror will not stop.


8 posted on 09/18/2005 7:50:10 PM PDT by RouxStir (Governor Blanco Screwed Up and People Died.)
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Re: #1. Address Congress and call this what it is, World War IV.

What happened with WWIII, I missed that.

Re: #4 Institute a draft for the armed forces.

WRONG! I cannot think of something more counter-productive and demeaning to our soldiers in the field than sending them unwilling recruits.

9 posted on 09/18/2005 7:55:19 PM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg)
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To: logician2u

We are fighting this on our terms as to not be spread too this and collapse as Rome did.


10 posted on 09/18/2005 7:58:46 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: logician2u

american victory in a war, how politicaly incorrect could you get?


11 posted on 09/18/2005 7:59:38 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: logician2u

Everybody should read "Infiltration" to get a first-hand look at how the FBI is kneeling at the altar of PC. Frightening as hell.


12 posted on 09/18/2005 8:00:15 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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What happened with WWIII, I missed that.

That would have been the Cold War w/ Russia.

We needed a draft for that one didn't we? Oh wait, we didn't and we won right? Oh yea, and it took more than five years right?

Impatience really got us somewhere in Vietnam didn't it? Only Fools cut and run just moments before victory.

13 posted on 09/18/2005 8:25:59 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (I alone, am the chosen one. Because I alone, did the choosing.)
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To: logician2u
Why not victory?

I clearly remember the war effort in the UK during WW2. Draconian though it was, the authorities realised the power of morale,and clamped down hard on naysayers.

I do not, of course, say that the press should be exposed to that sort of censorship today. What makes President Bush's task so much harder, is not only a critical press, but a seditious one. In those days, every one was with "Winnie"- good old Winnie.

The press, as Americans, could have tempered their criticisms and at least cried blue murder, with their elite hangers on- behind closed doors. Much of the media is more effective against the Bush Administration, than a deliberately subversive enemy. This is a terrible drag on the efforts of the US Government. My salute to much of the media follows.

Swine.

14 posted on 09/18/2005 8:30:05 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Only Fools cut and run just moments before victory.

Fools Cowards, and Democrats cut and run just moments before victory.

15 posted on 09/18/2005 8:33:42 PM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg)
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To: logician2u
This article makes some good points however, the question of "Why no victory after 5 years?" is goofy.

No one with a remotely realistic outlook on the problem would imagine it taking less than a generation or two to actually fix....if not longer....if ever.  As for the major military threats, even the President stated it was going to take more than 10 years.

16 posted on 09/18/2005 8:34:02 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (If you snit at the hand that feeds you, you're probably a leftist.)
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>>>>While Bush has been far better than Clinton, cleaning the Taliban out of Afghanistan and removing Saddam, the latter-day Hitler, from Iraq, he hasn't done nearly enough.

PresBush has gone about as far as his political capital will carry him. Unless theres another attack on US soil or plans are secured that show a pending terrorist attack, military output has reached its maximum level. The use of Iraq as flypaper to draw in all the terrorists and have our troops fight the battles over there, instead of over here has worked well. Even though Bush has said the WOT is a different kind of war, the American people don't like drawn out conflicts. Outside of the Revolutionary War and the VietNam War, most US involvment has lasted less then five years.

17 posted on 09/18/2005 8:37:43 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: logician2u
Who is this John Andrews character?

I never read such a bunch of crap in my life!

1. Address Congress and call this what it is, World War IV.
Truman, JFK & LBJ didn't.

2. Send another 50,000 troops to Iraq.
For what? Don't the camel jockeys have enough targets.
The whole purpose is to build up the Iraqi forces so we can get the hell out!! hellooooooo???

3. Increase the defense budget by $200 billion.
and do what with it? gezzzzz is this guy stupid or what?

4. Institute a draft for the armed forces.
and do what with them?

5. Declare war on Syria.
then what?

6. Put Cheney over a task force to find Bin Laden, Zawahiri, and Zarqawi.
oh now that will reeeeeely solve the problem! LMAO

7. Name a Democrat, perhaps Lieberman or Bayh, as Homeland Security secretary.
'Rats are so good at running things! again LMAO

8. Militarize the Mexican border.
how bout just building a wall. again hellooooooo?

9. Summon the leaders of Muslim nations to the woodshed in Washington.
Why not just deport 'em all back to whatever hellhole they originated from.

10. Assemble democracy activists from Muslim nations at Independence Hall.
and do what? get a Texas hold'em game going? LOL

11. Intensify FBI surveillance of Islamofascist front groups in the U.S.
Read answer to number 9

12. Break relations with the Palestinian Authority.
and then what? another card game?

13. Speed up Saddam Hussein's trial and urge his execution.
uhhhh, I think that's up to the Iraqis?
where did this clown go to school???

14. Indict Kofi Annan and notify the United Nations to relocate overseas.
keep your friends close and your enemies closer

15. Convene a Warsaw summit of the democracies
and do what? another card game?


This Andrews character is dumber than dirt!
18 posted on 09/18/2005 8:38:21 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: logician2u

He forgot #16, which falls in line with the other fifteen:

16. Summon the fairy of the north woods with a giant conch to grant everyone a flying unicorn.

Expand the war and institute a draft indeed, when nearly every Joe Sixpack in the States couldn't find Syria on the map despite the huge yellow arrows that point and scream "SYRIA" on it. Yeesh.

APf


19 posted on 09/18/2005 8:43:38 PM PDT by APFel
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
That would have been the Cold War w/ Russia [Soviet Union].

Didn't the Cold War with the soivients start before WWII? Don't recall us being "buddies" until after the war started.

20 posted on 09/18/2005 8:44:02 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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