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To: Red6
Iraq and all these things are no real issue in germany anymore. Nobody really cares about Iraq including myself.
It is a topic for americans and the US. For example foreign policy was no topic during the election campaign (only turkey a little bit).

"You define yourselves through opposition to the US"

sorry but i really doubt you lived in germany.

"Most, and I mean 99% have NO idea about what the US is, what we represent, our values, even how our government works and state is organized"

these posts here show that even the americans that are interested in politics have no idea how our system works.

"Portugal, Greece, YU, Romania, Bulgaria…..Either were forbidden to travel in the past or today can’t afford to travel to the US. However, the average American can afford travel to Europe and we do it quiet extensively."

i am sure you will present a link and showing some numbers i will do the same.
Do you know when Greece and Portugal joined the EU and so who should deny their right to travel?

"All you need to do to be liked by a self-proclaimed intellectual “old” European is string these words together - Hegemonic, imperialistic, neo-colonialist, oil, Bush, Cowboy, Halliburton - and you’ll be immediately accepted as an intellectual; an expert."

Oh Jesus you really lived here you are a real expert of german people. LOL

I believe you make a lot of friends when you travel around the world and you must do that very often according to your knowledge of europe and europeans. Just stay as you are and keep your prejudices alive.
193 posted on 09/20/2005 4:42:10 AM PDT by stefan10
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To: stefan10

"Iraq and all these things are no real issue in germany anymore. Nobody really cares about Iraq including myself." You say

WRONG:

Schroeder made Iran into an issue in 2005. He even "Warned" the US of trying to solve the Iran issue with a military option. The SPD DID use the Iraq war in their election bid extensively in 2005 as well.

http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2005/09/16/wahlkampf__pervers/wahlkampf__pervers__spd__usa.html

“i am sure you will present a link and showing some numbers i will do the same.
Do you know when Greece and Portugal joined the EU and so who should deny their right to travel?” You said

Most people in Greece and Portugal do not have the financial means to travel to Germany. They are overwhelmingly poor as a nation and tourism FROM Portugal is not common. Up until 1989 not many people from Bulgaria or Romania were allowed to travel to the US or anywhere in the West. Of course MOST of the former East block countries, while they are rapidly improving are also poor, and they too can not afford to have an average family travel to London. Let alone the US! Look at what an average Slovak makes, even today!

“I believe you make a lot of friends when you travel around the world and you must do that very often according to your knowledge of europe and europeans. Just stay as you are and keep your prejudices alive.” You say

I actually do make a lot of friends where ever I go. Of course the Germans on Ibiza on a drunken orgy, or in Thailand (On a Bumsflug) or elsewhere also make a lot of friends. Ask the Spanish tourism secretary. Of course the flourishing sex tourism in Jamaica from Germany is also overlooked. Yes, you make many friends too.

Yes, I will be back in your neck of the woods on 11 OCT 05. :)

Red6


210 posted on 09/20/2005 9:04:08 PM PDT by Red6
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