And BTW ....... Duran Duran, should NOT be included. My mistake.
Posted on 09/18/2005 6:51:20 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
2006 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominations Leave Out Many Rock Acts Again
By: Douglas Maher - All Headline News Staff Reporter
September 18,2005 9:41 A.M. EST
Cleveland,Ohio (AHN) - The nominees for the Class of 2006 for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is filled with a lot of hold overs from previous years and virtually ignores a truckload of artists that many critics are shaking their heads over.
J.Geils Band, John Mellencamp, the Patti Smith Group, Chic, Joe Tex,Miles Davis, Cat Stevens, Blondie, the Paul Butterfield Band, the Dave Clark Five and the Sir Douglas Quintet will all have a chance to make it into the hall of fame located in Cleveland.
This year also marks the eighth chance for Black Sabbath, Lynyd Skynyrd gets their seventh chance,and the Sex Pistols and the Stooges all of which are on try number five.
Missing from the nomination list again this year include bands like Rush, Van Halen, Yes, Genesis, ELO, Joan Jett, Def Leppard, Alice Cooper, Heart, Deep Purple, Pat Benatar, and Duran Duran.
Nominees are picked by a 70-member committee of rock 'n' roll historians, journalists and label execs, with ballots then mailed to an international voting body of 700 music industry types for the final decision. The five to seven nominees that receive the most votes will be inducted into the Rock Hall next year.
I think you're correct. R&R is pretty much dead these days.
Replaced by what ironically is another R&R, namely rhythm and
rhyme. Not much place for music, just poorly rhymed phrases
, some multi-octave wailing, and some background bass(in general, mind you.) Can't
forget the semi-dancing(seductive undulations)...
But it's basically music for different generations, like
the 30's music, 40's music, 50's-80's music, 90's music, etc.
that we're gonna see...it will be instructive to see some of the
"gangsta" rappers try and do their schtick with their
"walkers, canes, and Depends" on
That's because Johnny Cash never had a habit of whipping it out on stage, unlike Jim Morrison and Luther Campbell.
Posted: Sun., Sep. 18, 2005, 6:00am PT
Rock hall of fame aims to get smarter
Cleveland music Valhalla turns 10, heads to college to spread its wings
By PHIL GALLO
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It takes a performer 25 years of work to get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but the stuff that's pulling in nearly half a million people per year is not only leather pants from the '70s, hippie detritus from the '60s and dusty vinyl from the 1950s. It's Britney Spears. TLC. Obscure Seattle acts. Hank Williams.
"The goal is to get a broad panorama," says Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum prexy and CEO Terry Stewart. "We need to have stuff that represents the people on the charts. We have to have entry points, so that means having things from Britney Spears. They might not want to admit it, but every person who walks in here probably didn't like Led Zeppelin when they were 12. They liked another act they're embarrassed to mention now."
The physical building turns 10 this month, and in its decade on the banks of Lake Erie, its 5 million visitors have spent $1.1 billion in the city of Cleveland, according to Team NEO, a regional economic development organization in northeast Ohio. To move the org into its next decade, it is establishing a Library and Archives at the Cuyahoga Community College campus in downtown Cleveland for students and scholars conducting serious research on rock and roll. The 18,000-square-foot library will be housed within the college's new Center for American Music and Recording Arts, slated to open in December 2007.
Already pledging to donate collections (personal papers, contracts, manuscripts, memoirs, and correspondence with artists, record label executives and the media) are label founder Seymour Stein, Mo Ostin and Clive Davis, scribe Ben Fong-Torres, scribe/producer Jerry Wexler, the estates of Alan Freed and Curtis Mayfield and others.
"This closes a loop on our scholarly run," notes Stewart, who has run the show for seven years and had previously held top level jobs at Marvel Comics, including vice chairman.
Yet while it moves forward with the new building, it hasn't solved all the issues with its current building, which opened its doors Sept. 1, 1995.
Visitors -- 95% of whom are not locals -- often miss a crucial ramp that goes from the third to the fourth floor. Missing it means not seeing the autographs of every hall inductee, getting a sense of rock's history and the celebrations that have been afforded those artists.
"We have done every variation of a sign possible, and it seems like that's the one area people don't see," says Stewart, who gets a bit exasperated every time he hears about another person failing to notice a key part of the hall.
By missing the ramp, anyone unfamiliar with the history of the hall gets no sense of who's in and who has yet to make the cut. The last class inducted comprised Buddy Guy, the O'Jays, Pretenders, Percy Sledge and U2; Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Randy Newman and the J. Geils Band made the final ballot but didn't get in, joining Black Sabbath and Patti Smith among deserving acts on the outside looking in. The hall will send out ballots later this month to decide who makes the class of '06, with Smith, Lynyrd Skynyrd and Cat Stevens expected to lead the way.
But getting in, doesn't mean being on display. Part of that owes to the hall relying on donations. It has no budget for acquisitions, so putting together a display is pretty much a crapshoot.
"We don't have the space for every inductee," Stewart says.
On top of that, the museum rotates through artists -- it recently reinstalled a collection of correspondence from a young Jim Morrison -- and gathering enough items from collectors can take considerable time. "It's really a judgment call (when) we hit critical mass."
This summer, the hall had a thorough collection of Ramones memorabilia that Stewart says came together only early this year; displays dedicated to Neil Young and the Southern California country-rock scene were lacking in substantial, intriguing material. This summer, the hall had a thorough examination of the Who's "Tommy," from concept album to stage show.
Stewart says the museum has been designed without a model to follow and as it progresses, it will improve the storytelling, do more with iconic figures and do more chronological layouts.
"We're very careful in staying true to artifacts," Stewart says. "We don't do a lot of gold records. We want items that (display) the essence of where this music came from."
Blondie and not Rush? Staggering.
Yeah! Why hasn't Krokus been nominated yet?
Ah yes, "Piss on the Wall!" My friends and I thought it was just funny little ditty, and of course, being only nine at the time, we got a kick of bathroom humour.
Cooperstown or Canton, on the other hand, are truly what HOF's should be.
I agree the RnR Hall of Fame is a disgrace, but it is, after all, a Hall of Fame, not a Hall of Your Personal Favorites.
If it WERE a Hall of Your Personal Favorites, it would be on CD's, sold on late-night/early morning Time-Warner informercials.
Freebird was late 1973.
Tet was 68.
Nam was about done by late 73, 18 months later Hueys were evac-ing the roof of the embassy in Saigon.
I don't see how the Montgomery line means anything ....especially when coupled with "In Birminghma, they love the governor, now we all did what we could do"....with some boos thrown in.
The watergate lines probably irritate faggy Wenner.
But what still bothers him is that what's left of LS in unabsahedly pro-Ameerican and Southern and they will wave the flag. Folks like Wenner cringe at that.
The irony is that Walden at Capricorn Records from Macon was a big buttbuddy of Carter's in 76 when Southern Rock was peaking and enlisted basically his whole roster to play for Jimmy.
And of course, Johnny Cash is the "OP", original punk. I love the picture of him flipping the bird to the photographer in the San Quentin.
I have to agree with ya pard. They were the best live act ever besides the Stones....when it comes to "rock and roll". They burned the house down.
What mystifies me is the fact that Black Sabbath has been nominated 8 times and not inducted. They invented an entire genre of rock music...and are legends to this day. Superb musicians.
And BTW ....... Duran Duran, should NOT be included. My mistake.
I can assure you 100%, Piss On the Wall was NOT about the Vietnam Memorial. Not only wasn't it even in the planning stages when the song was written, but they weren't sober enough to make that political statement then (I'm not kidding!).
The person who said it was about the Berlin Wall was correct.
I agree whole-heartedly.
So did the David Lee Roth band in it's first album "Eat 'Em and Smile"...GREAT cover of the song, on a maginificent album!
Great- another "too cool for the room" nomination list. Which of the nominees is this year's token "60's blues musician who had one hit, nobody's ever heard of him, yet he must be inducted because he was so innovative and creative"?
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