Posted on 09/18/2005 4:41:37 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
This was the time that they should have been used to forcibly deport L.A. illegals. Think of how much better off the city would be today.
Keep in mind the only reason it was "impracticable to enforce the laws" in" LA was the impotency of the Governor. The tell tale hypocrisy of those that want soldiers to be able enforce law inside the U.S., will be when they then squeal about the use of Soldiers on the border. Of course that's waht's meant by "loosening", we get the parts we like and the parts we don't like are still illegal. It's a good principle in law and should remain.
I agree. Not a good idea. Not good at all.
Mission creep is a bad idea.
Posse Comitatus is just a "feelgood" law anyhow. The military has been working around it for years, particularly in drug enforcement. The Navy routinely works drug interdiction missions supporting the Coast Guard. During these missions, Navy vessels simply change their name to "Coast Guard Cutter ___________" instead of the true name of their vessel.
The real concern is that certain populations within the United States are becoming "ungovernable" by civilian authority. Gangs and criminals can outgun our civilian police. Any city with a large, dependent underclass can count on looting and civil unrest during a state of emergency.
When America was founded, restraints of Christian morality (not Christianity, but the social constraints and mores) enabled self-government. Today, those underpinnings have been so undermined that American can only be governed by force. Inasmuch as we become uncivil, increased measures of force will be implemented to maintain order.
The answer doesn't reside in the political realm. The solution comes from a return to taking spiritual responsibility to live within certain behavioral parameters.
Could someone post the picture of Elian Gonzles being forcably taken during the Clinton years?
That picture says it all.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Bingo! All the hate speech coming from the left has had an effect. You can see the result all over, i.e. driving and road rage, you name it. Thank you Democrats for the lack of civility we are seeing today. It can begin to change back when we no longer accept it, fight back against it, and vote for those who can provide solutions to some serious problems and work together for the common good. Perhaps in 2006. I don't know.
It's like punishing the whole class because of one bad kid's behavior.
Why not just make Louisiana a federal entity like Washington D.C.?
No, Posse Comitatus is a safeguard, like the Second Amendment, against the creation of a military state.
Yes, drug enforcement has stretched the limits to a degree---however, we do not have soldiers going through the streets after drug dealers. Not yet.
The deconstruction of the welfare state is needed. President Bush alluded to this in his speech as New Orleans presents an opporunity to implement conservative programs to change the staus quo that seems perfectly acceptable to liberal democrats.
That picture says it all.
But it is what many conservatives want to happen all across this country --- the MSM will show pictures of illegals being rounded up, put on trucks and deported.
We want to solve illegal immigration, but we need to be careful of what we ask for, less we become that which we hate.
The most cost effective way to rid ourselves of the invading hordes is to have a few high profile arrests and deportations. A few thousand at most.
The invaders aren't as dumb or helpless as the RATS would have us believe. Such arrests would dramatically slow the invasion, and a voluntary exodus of those here would begin.
They're NOT dumb, in fact I believe they are some of the best that Mexico has to offer, including their criminal element. Except for the criminals, for the most part, they are the kind of people who can build countries. In small part, that's why there is little effort on Mexico's part to stop them. That way Mexico doesn't have to deal with highly motivated citizens clamering for more opportunities in Mexico.
I agree. This needs to be revisited.
No, no, no, no, no!
Right. Then during the next natural disaster, we will have the military disarming citizens.
That's where the shooting starts.
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Yes. Looters should be shot on sight.
As civil government increasingly reveals itself to be composed of bunglers there will be no institution left capable of handling the inevitable disasters. Hence, more and more the military will have to become involved. Eventually some smart military guy will simply say to the civilian "leaders" who needs you? Yet another consequence of "tolerance," "power sharing," "room at the table," "the big tent," human dignity," "rights," all code words for allowing ineptitude to be elevated to positions of authority..
Just because gov't is inept, does not mean a military state is justified.
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