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School bond formula faltering - (worried school construction companies campaign for votes)
Houston Chronicle ^ | September 18, 2005 | JASON SPENCER

Posted on 09/18/2005 1:50:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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They have a lot of money but don't spend it like they're on a budget or with an eye for wasteful spending.

Below is a school district in Texas that got it right and their success put them under the court gun.
When the court threatened to block student transfers, teachers began working to help families set up homeschooling.

Two school districts embroiled in racial tug of war (this one has it all: choice, naacp, money tug) ***...[LINK in Post #1] ***....Bienski doesn't deny that Mumford relies on the state aid it receives for the transfers, but he insists that has not been the secret to the school district's recent success. Mumford has been successful, Bienski says, because it does more with less.

There is some evidence of that.

Bienski serves not only as the school district superintendent, but also as the principal of all three campuses. When the district began its aggressive building campaign in 1997, Bienski served as the general contractor, saving the district millions of dollars. The district owns all three campuses outright.

The school district stocked its computer labs by taking advantage of grant programs. When it launched its high school a few years ago, it focused on academics and avoided costly athletic programs such as football. ....***

1 posted on 09/18/2005 1:50:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Born Conservative
It looks like NCLB's exposer of public education rot is helping to fuel a tax revolt.
2 posted on 09/18/2005 2:58:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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We need less government schools, not more. And the government schools need to spend less, not more.

I've voted "no" on every bond proposal for years. And now others are starting to vote "no," too.
3 posted on 09/18/2005 3:08:56 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Dianna; ...

4 posted on 09/18/2005 3:09:38 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm expecting that some people who are die-hards will die hard.'' -NOLA parish president)
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"$385 million bond proposal that included eight new schools, a competition swim center and a laptop computer for every high school student."

Looks cheap. And with the explosive growth in Chicago suburbia, I can't imagine what it is down there! My beef is with the over-the-top extravagance of the buildings. Inlaid oak flooring and brass hardware, etc. Spending thousands on what should cost hundreds. Ever wonder why districts complain they have no money for teacher salaries?

5 posted on 09/18/2005 3:10:38 AM PDT by endthematrix (JOHN ROBERTS vs JOE BIDEN ................... ROBERTS wins TKO in second round!)
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To: Iwo Jima

Teachers' unions will fight this tooth and nail and their best buddies, the Democratic Party machine, will fight with them.

But the people are stronger than these groups. It's beginning to show.


6 posted on 09/18/2005 3:10:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: endthematrix

Parents are getting hip to bogus "My child...." bumper stickers.

They don't like it when their child needs remedial reading, writing and math in college.

They don't like superintendents getting $200K - $300K salaries and thousands more in benefits.

They don't like fancy schools with incompetent teachers manning the classrooms.

They don't like LIBERAL politics and social instruction invading their schools.


7 posted on 09/18/2005 3:14:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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"it focused on academics and avoided costly athletic programs such as football"

I could imagine the uproar from "parents" about that! Any disruption of athletic schedule is a sin. Loss of music or foreign language...not a peep.

8 posted on 09/18/2005 3:17:57 AM PDT by endthematrix (JOHN ROBERTS vs JOE BIDEN ................... ROBERTS wins TKO in second round!)
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9 posted on 09/18/2005 3:20:07 AM PDT by endthematrix (JOHN ROBERTS vs JOE BIDEN ................... ROBERTS wins TKO in second round!)
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To: endthematrix

When money is tight, you go for the basics and do sports on the side.


10 posted on 09/18/2005 3:25:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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A chicken in every pot, a car in every garage, a lap-top computer for every high school student.....the New Deal lives on.

I don't see one word about kids of immigrants overwhelming the school districts in this border state, so I guess it's not a problem. The problem seems to lie with those uncaring, heartless, mindless, childless, rich suburban folk in their $400,000 homes who vote "no" on the bond issues.

Leni

12 posted on 09/18/2005 3:32:01 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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C+ huh? That's "C" for...cool?


13 posted on 09/18/2005 3:34:39 AM PDT by endthematrix (JOHN ROBERTS vs JOE BIDEN ................... ROBERTS wins TKO in second round!)
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To: MinuteGal

Excellent point.


14 posted on 09/18/2005 4:00:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: endthematrix
"C" for...cool?

LOL. I don't know.

Maybe C for clueless.

15 posted on 09/18/2005 4:00:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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***.........Under No Child requirements, districts must inform parents about the free tutoring, but many skirt the rules by sending letters "laden with the usual bureaucratic jargon," wrote Harvard University professor Paul E. Peterson in Education Next magazine.

The motive: If parents deep-six the letters and ignore the program, districts pocket the unused money. "They have a clear financial disincentive to encourage student participation," Peterson wrote....***

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/18/State/Will_free_tutors_help.shtml


16 posted on 09/18/2005 4:08:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Exactly right.


17 posted on 09/18/2005 4:32:31 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Wayne Oquin, president of the Galena Park school board, said he's confident voters will see the need Oct. 1 to borrow $85 million for new schools, a health clinic and computers.

What kind of idiots would elect a school board that would even propose this kind of garbage?

Only the insane would take out a 30 year loan on something that will last only 2 or 3 years. I'm referring to the computers.

If the voters are not held responsible for the decisions of the school boards, then why even vote?

18 posted on 09/18/2005 4:55:18 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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"We have school buildings that are in dire need of work," Roy said.

Well?  Private individuals and businesses MAINTAIN their buildings and BUDGET and PLAN for maintenance costs as part of the life cycle costs of owning the buildings.

Have you ever noticed all government officials start harping on the need to repair government buildings and the requirement for more money  so that they can do so?  Why didn't they maintain them in the first place?  I particularly love the statement we hear time and time again that the school buildings are OUTDATED.  What's that mean other than that they want more money?  Ever notice that in Europe, England and places in the US like Harvard and Princeton, they have buildings hundreds of years old and they are still in good shape but a public school (or any government building for that matter) becomes a dangerous and unmentionable monster after 50 years of occupation and must be torn down and rebuilt?

Another thing, when it comes to schools, why is it that all new schools have to be works of art and have huge buildings and areas dedicated to sports?

19 posted on 09/18/2005 4:59:47 AM PDT by DH
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"Another thing, when it comes to schools, why is it that all new schools have to be works of art and have huge buildings and areas dedicated to sports?"

Thats what annoys me about my school district here in Arlington. Every new school, especially the two new High Schools, look like high end malls. As much as I am a supporter of extracurricular activities, I played the violin from 4th through 11th, I think it has no business in a public school system. There was a time that sports around here were private leagues, but died out since they could not keep up with the HUGE taxes levees that school districts could get to fund their sports programs.
20 posted on 09/18/2005 5:30:05 AM PDT by neb52
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