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Vang says three hunters deserved to die (Day 5 PM Update)
Star Tribune ^ | 9/15/05 | Larry Oakes

Posted on 09/15/2005 6:33:33 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo

In an emotional end to the trial of Chai Soua Vang, he testified this afternoon that three of the hunters he killed deserved to die.

Vang, charged with killing six hunters and wounding two others in a confrontation over trespassing last November, testified that two of the hunters deserved to die because they called him names.

"Why did Mr. [Robert] Crotteau deserve to die?" asked Wisconsin Attorney General Peg Lautenschlauger, the lead prosecutor.

"Because he was the one who confronted me and called me names, and that's who he is," said Vang, 36, of St. Paul.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; chaivang; hunters; vang; wisconsin
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1 posted on 09/15/2005 6:33:34 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: PjhCPA; Iowa Granny; Petruchio; SJackson; Rytwyng; Dr Snide; ozaukeemom; JLO; brbethke; gieriscm; ..
Jury gets this tomorrow ping.


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2 posted on 09/15/2005 6:34:56 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Vang has sealed his fate by admitting that he acted as judge, juror, and executioner.
3 posted on 09/15/2005 6:35:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: All

See also:

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_258131212.html

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/12653907.htm


4 posted on 09/15/2005 6:37:33 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I just posted on the other thread that this testimony should have gotten him the needle. Instead it should mean, he will spend the rest of his life behind bars(hopefully a short life). I guess I should be careful what I say or imply. And, no it isn't because the defendant is Hmong; it is because he is a cold blooded murderer using his race as a shield.


5 posted on 09/15/2005 6:38:00 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Last time I checked, it is not a good idea to cuss a man carrying a gun.

There was no excuse for Vang to shoot them, but sometimes it is a lot wiser to keep quiet.

Again, I am not defending or justifying Vang. He should be executed.


6 posted on 09/15/2005 6:38:55 PM PDT by arjay (May God give President Bush strength and comfort in this time of struggle!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Too bad Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty.


7 posted on 09/15/2005 6:40:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: cripplecreek

I'm still trying to digest the live testimony I listened to this afternoon. I'll try to boil it down for a future forum.

If anybody else caught Vang's testimony today, let's have your analysis.


8 posted on 09/15/2005 6:41:24 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: arjay
Last time I checked, it is not a good idea to cuss a man carrying a gun.

How do you know they cursed at him?

9 posted on 09/15/2005 6:41:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

This Vang guys attorney(s) must really stink. ( which I am not complaining about really, the guy is guilty no doubt).

But if this man is spouting stuff like this on the stand, his attorney(s) should have forseen this and kept him under wraps.

I wonder if this was done on purpose, looking down the road for an appeal.

I thought this guy had some high profile attorneys representing him?


10 posted on 09/15/2005 6:42:57 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon (Liberal definition of looting: " Self-help Humanitarian Aid.")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I guess the attorney had no choice but to put him on the stand. It does sound like the people who confronted him escalted the situation. If he gets off it's going to be open season on white people, I hope the jury realizes that.


11 posted on 09/15/2005 6:43:49 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Good move, putting him on the stand.


12 posted on 09/15/2005 6:44:56 PM PDT by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I haven't been following it beyond here at FR but that "It's who he was" comment makes me wonder if he's killed others. Almost sounds like Dennis Rader.


13 posted on 09/15/2005 6:45:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

That is what he said in the article. He may be lying, of course, but I still say it is not a good idea to curse a man with a gun.


14 posted on 09/15/2005 6:46:14 PM PDT by arjay (May God give President Bush strength and comfort in this time of struggle!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
This is scary and sad stuff. Even if he was afraid and the men acted as they did, he didn't have to shoot anyone.

The grandmother's statement is appropriate. I think she feels shamed by her son's actions and sorry for the families.

15 posted on 09/15/2005 6:46:40 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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I need to shut down for the night.

I'm fried.

Have at it and I'll catch up in the morning.

If there will be any live coverage by MN media tomorrow, I'll ping ya'.


16 posted on 09/15/2005 6:46:48 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
OOOH, that's not gonna help.

I hope this guy lives a very long time in a very bad prison.

17 posted on 09/15/2005 6:47:55 PM PDT by SolidRedState (E Pluribus Funk --- (Latin taglines are sooooo cool! Don't ya think?))
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To: jocon307
It does sound like the people who confronted him escalted the situation.

According to the guy who shot unarmed people in the back.

I am sightly skeptical of his version of events.

18 posted on 09/15/2005 6:48:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!)
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He said that he removed the telescopic sight from his rifle and spun around, shooting Willers.

Bravo Sierra.

Scopes aren't simply removed. It takes tools and time.

I don't believe any "scope" testimony in this trial.

19 posted on 09/15/2005 6:49:26 PM PDT by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - I will never take Dix off of my ping list as I have been asked to do.)
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To: arjay
That is what he said in the article. He may be lying, of course

Of course.

20 posted on 09/15/2005 6:49:42 PM PDT by JCEccles
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