Live Thread: Bush Speech About New Orleans (9 pm EDT)

www.freerepublic.com | September 15 , 2005

[uncbob]

It is obvious that you and I will disagree and that you will ignore anything I've said about learning from other countries, such as the Netherlands.

Netherlands have NO OTHER CHOICE as far as where to live

Your apology is accepted

[uncbob]

When the situation arises, it will be dealt with.

Just hope it doesn't arise again this season

[bourbon]

would you like to be on the MS ping list?

[eddiemunster]

Join the club. I couldn't believe the butt-kissing I experienced last night on this thread. Bush's proposed "programs" are even further duplication of existing gov't programs. You think there was curruption and waste before? You ain't seen nothin' yet.

[FreeAtlanta]

I have moved President Bush from my list of top 5 presidents to the list of bottom 5 presidents, after he committed so much money to a lost cause.

I really hope someone of sound mind will block some of this funding, before our great grandchildren get screwed.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Afternoon T-M,
You spoke the words of truth in your comment. Why should we have to pay for a disaster which could have been prevented with the government funds set aside to fix the levees, dams and water-pumps?

I presume that money was used to get out the vote to keep those flunkies in office at the cost of NOLA lives.

NOLA a cesspool in 66 and a greater cesspool in 2006,
NSNR-CSAOTL

[Snoopers-868th]

Our opinions are not wanted on this thread.

[the Deejay]

WOW! I don't recall ever hearing about
Lori Klausutis found dead in
Joe's office!

I would think the Liberal press would
have had that story front and center
for months!

Thanks for the link!!

[eddiemunster]

I don't understand this guy. Just 2 days ago Bush promised a pile of money to the U.N. for his "war on poverty". WHERE IN THE HELL IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM!? He must own a magical castle where oompa loompas make money out of lemon drops and chocolate bars. Conservative my ass.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Afternoon,
May God Bless our beloved "Gipper." He was a man among men and a Presidential Legend.

The Gipper would have made sure the state and local paid their fair share in the rebuilding of NOLA(CESSPOOL).

President Bush is a good man, but he is too, trusting and benevolent to those who would bite off his tax dollar (give away) hand in a NOLA second.

Why should the hard working Americans pay for a city who's politicians did not utilize the federal money designated to upgrade the levees-dams-water-pumps for Cat-5 hurricanes.

We are not Nola's and the La politicians keepers, let them rebuild from their own money coffers.

Fiction and Fairy Tales,
NSNR-FNBL

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

U R right. Sure wish President Bush would listen to the people who supported him instead of his leftist handlers.

CUT SPENDING!!!!!!!!!

We miss you , Ronald Reagan. God Bless you.

[mosquitobite]

I cannot, for the life of me, understand how you faux conservatives keep getting responses from mostly intelligent FReepers.

From wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative Values
Different forms of conservatism emphasise different values, including among others these value preferences

• order over chaos
• orientation toward the past rather than the future
• the rural over the urban
• unity and homogeneity, over discord and fragmentation
• the natural over the artificial and technological
• existence over possibility
• slow and incremental change over utopian projects
• hierarchy over egalitarianism
• acceptance of inequality over redistribution
• in the European Union, sovereignty over union
  
  And just for shits and giggles:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_With_America
  
  Government reform
  On the first day of their majority, the Republicans promised to pass eight reforms on government operations:
  
  
• require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply to Congress;
• select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
• cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
• limit the terms of all committee chairs;
• ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
• require committee meetings to be open to the public;
• require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
• and implement a zero base-line budgeting process for the annual Federal Budget.
  
  The Fiscal Responsibility Act
  
  An amendment to the Constitution that would require a balanced budget, unless sanctioned by a 3/5 vote in both Houses of Congress (H.J.Res.1, passed by the US House 279-152, 1/4/95; rejected by the US Senate 65-35, 3/2/95), and provide the President with a line-item veto (H.R.2, passed by the US House 294-134, 2/6/95).

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Afternoon Twigs,
There is an old saying about things that occurred two hundred plus years ago.

"That Was Then and This Is Now."

One gets from life exactly what they put into life.
In closing as to racism, it will never die for the poverty pimps and democrats reap extortion money from weak kneed corporations and others who will not call their bluff.

Everybody's gotta die sometime Red,
NSNR-PLT

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

I have moved President Bush from my list of top 5 presidents to the list of bottom 5 presidents, after he committed so much money to a lost cause.

Actually, even before Katrina, President Bush has been on record as the greatest spender of any president, both in raw dollars (which is meaningless) but in REAL numbers--that is, percentages devoted to social welfare, etc.

President Bush initiated NEW welfare programs that LBJ could not even dream of while drunk--things like downpayment for home money to minorities, $15 billion to Africa., etc. Heck, I think George Bush spends more on welfare for foreign nations than LBJ spent domestically on USA citizens.

A non-Marxist approach is to stop all foreign aid and transfer money from other social welfare programs in the budget to pay for this. Considering about 65% of all spending goes toward welfare, there is over $1 TRILLION in FY 2006 that can be reshuffled to pay for this mess by cutting back an equal amount somewhere in that $1 TRILLION welfare spending (Superfunction "Human Resources"). Bill O'Reilley stated abut $380 billion in "entitlements". Human Resources includes "entitlements" as well as other social welfare programs.

Our socialism makes Europe's system look like our Founding Fathers' vision of limited government. This makes me ill.

[mosquitobite]

yep. see my tag line...
as long as we are silent they think we are ok with it. bad bad precedent.

[clawrence3]

Sorry - I was out to lunch - we will have to agree to disagree about Reagan. I indeed think he would have proposed much the same in the face of the worst natural disater to hit the U.S. in our lifetimes. Peggy Noonan basically says the same thing here:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110007258

As for when liberals try to use this precedent when they are in charge (they already tried once and failed with the War on Poverty), but this is what you call a "slippery slope" argument - I trust all conservatives will be united to stop something like that.

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

TO: United States Congress, via President Bush's desk

ATTN: Lost and Found Department

Dear Wasteful Spenders:

You seem to have misplaced the BALANCED BUDGET AMMENDMENT.

Contact me when you find it.

Signed,

Outraged SLAVE (taxpayer).

[JeffAtlanta]

I indeed think he would have proposed much the same in the face of the worst natural disater to hit the U.S. in our lifetimes. Peggy Noonan basically says the same thing here:

He may have, but Reagan wasn't a perfect conservative either. He was the greatest president of the 20th century and a great conservative, but he had his shortcomings as well.

[clawrence3]

Even Ronald Reagan had an exception to balancing the budget for such extraordinary circumstances. Maybe your argument is that predominantly black people being impacted does not qualify as an extraordinary circumstance?

[JeffAtlanta]

Sorry - I was out to lunch - we will have to agree to disagree about Reagan.

By the way, I meant to say good post. Glad to see someone bring something of substance to the table.

I wanted to add that Reagan did veto the Big Dig project in Boston but was overriden. Proponents of the bill made pretty much the same arguments that we are hearing now - Boston is a major port and will cease to be a city unless we do something and "the country can't afford a major port like Boston to be rendered inoperable."