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Live Thread: Bush Speech About New Orleans (9 pm EDT)
www.freerepublic.com | September 15 , 2005

Posted on 09/15/2005 4:52:29 PM PDT by Howlin

Edited on 09/15/2005 5:05:17 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

9 P.M. EDT.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: bush43; katrinaspeech; rebuildingno
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To: TAdams8591

You know, too many of them have expressed the desire not to go back. It must have been very oppressive because most of us love our homestates. Truly I think they would love to go back if their living conditions were better. They seem so shocked that someone cares about them. You have to wonder why.


2,601 posted on 09/15/2005 11:05:56 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: wardaddy
it would be best if the truly mired down and dispersed started over completely....somewhere else. that's just my hunch.

Wrong. Inspiring those "truly mired down" to "start over" someplace else is tantamount to sweeping the problem under the rug. You have to give them a reason to start over. Building businesses in the entreprenuerial spirit gives those "truly mired down" individuals someplace to start.

2,602 posted on 09/15/2005 11:06:23 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: hoosiermama

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2,603 posted on 09/15/2005 11:06:30 PM PDT by flowergirl (Trust in the Lord with all your heart)
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To: EDINVA

LOL! That too.


2,604 posted on 09/15/2005 11:06:59 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: nopardons

What did the Democrats offer tonight?....... All they want is to pin blame, and investigate something that happened in the past. Watching Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi conduct a news conference is like watching a spoiled brat who is complaining about not getting his or her way. They offer absolutely NOTHING, just gripes and whining. Who could follow such losers?


2,605 posted on 09/15/2005 11:09:46 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: paulat
' I don't understand your point. How could a state construction program funneling federal funds not be a state's rights issue?

I don't understand your initiative having any connection to "a state construction program funneling federal funds".

2,606 posted on 09/15/2005 11:09:56 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I don't much feel like arguing with you.

I like you fine but we are not on the same page regarding these topics.

I think an intergenerational ghetto family has a better chance shaking that off by starting over in a different known inner city urban ghetto environment somewhere like Lubbock or Salt Lake or Bozeman etc where such culture does not flourish.

Sorta like Haitian boat people feeling Haiti ...

that is hardly sweeping it under the rug....it's smart to me

I am dealing with evacuees here in Middle Tennessee thru the SBC and I have yet to hear any under 50 from the ghetto who want to go back. They look around Murfreesboro or Franklin and say "damn, I want to start over here!"

who can blame them.

they know no matter how pretty they rebuild the 9th ward or whatever....that given time, their chances are better here.


2,607 posted on 09/15/2005 11:12:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (I promise to listen to Peter Gabriel songs 24/7 till I'm rehabilitated)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

(not) starting over......

nite


2,608 posted on 09/15/2005 11:14:24 PM PDT by wardaddy (I promise to listen to Peter Gabriel songs 24/7 till I'm rehabilitated)
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To: Howlin

Maybe you should create two live threads for these events. One for Bushbots and one for SuperCons. The resulting traffic would become a kind of informal poll.


2,609 posted on 09/15/2005 11:15:09 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: wardaddy
I also very much disagree with some of the points you thought you made. They weren't factual.

For instance, it was the damned hippies and the Black Power snake oil cons, that changed so much of the culture in the '60s. Welfare and the "GREAT SOCIETY" didn't help any either; however, let's please be historically accurate about things.

And segregated schooling, in the South, was pretty terrible, for a very long time. The same was true in Boston and other places as well.

Poverty pimps and race hustlers and cons have been around since Antebellum times; Booker T. Washington talked about them, after all.

I'm not going to write an extended historical screed, refuting and explaining every point, but suffice it to say, that I think that your perception of the president's speech and mine, are radically different...to the point that I wonder why what he said, managed to set you off so.

2,610 posted on 09/15/2005 11:16:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: CAluvdubya
Oh well...factual rebuttals is what the rest of us have to do. And then, perhaps, a few will see the errors of their ways.........maybe. LOL
2,611 posted on 09/15/2005 11:18:27 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I don't understand your initiative having any connection to "a state construction program funneling federal funds".

Ah...I think I see. The FEDERAL civil rights laws dealt with federal funding...Fed to Fed. If you have a state program, like those in NO will be, it's Fed funding through a state structure...not covered by the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

The money Bush talked about was Federal funding that will be funneled through state (LA) programs. When he talked about giving minority businesses an advantage...that's where our anti-discrimination initiative kicks in.

59% of the lib state of Washington voted in the initiative...mainly due to the fact that Fed highway funds are funneled through state highway construction projects.

The same thing will be going on all over LA, MS and AL. Unless they have such a state law, discrimination will be legal, even under the 1964 Act.

2,612 posted on 09/15/2005 11:18:37 PM PDT by paulat
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To: KingKongCobra

That would be interesting, wouldn't it?

But, then, who would they argue with?


2,613 posted on 09/15/2005 11:18:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: paulat

Because it isn't. I suggest you read the Constitution.


2,614 posted on 09/15/2005 11:19:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Oh well...factual rebuttals is what the rest of us have to do.

You're doing a great job!

2,615 posted on 09/15/2005 11:20:42 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Free Republic.........On the cutting edge of news!)
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To: nopardons
Because it isn't. I suggest you read the Constitution.

I'm sorry...I have no idea what you're commenting on...pls enlighten me.

2,616 posted on 09/15/2005 11:21:25 PM PDT by paulat
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To: wardaddy
Sorta like Haitian boat people feeling Haiti ...

Except they're not Haitian boat people fleeing Haiti. The "truly mired down" will stay "truly mired down" no matter where they relocate. Give them concrete reasons to pull themselves up out of their mired condition, and they might reconsider. They're "truly mired down" because they've been conditioned to think that way by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Given an option, they'll rethink their current situation, decide they've had enough and chart a different course in life, whether they're relocated in Bozeman, MT, or Murfreesboro, TN, or going back to NOLA. Many want to stay where they're at, and probably just as many want to go back. Who can blame them?

2,617 posted on 09/15/2005 11:22:20 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: MJY1288
Who could follow them? Yellow dog Dems, morons, and cretins.

The Dems have offered NOTHING, for so long, it's mind boggling , to me, that people still voted for them.

2,618 posted on 09/15/2005 11:22:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: paulat
Ah...I think I see. The FEDERAL civil rights laws dealt with federal funding...Fed to Fed.

Well, thats what you said, not I. The quote you provided in your initiative might as well come from the Civil Rights Law, and probably did.

2,619 posted on 09/15/2005 11:24:57 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: CAluvdubya

Thanks...I try to. :-)


2,620 posted on 09/15/2005 11:25:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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