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Live Thread: Bush Speech About New Orleans (9 pm EDT)
www.freerepublic.com | September 15 , 2005

Posted on 09/15/2005 4:52:29 PM PDT by Howlin

Edited on 09/15/2005 5:05:17 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

9 P.M. EDT.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: bush43; katrinaspeech; rebuildingno
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To: JeffAtlanta
Most on this board aren't really conservatives - they are just cheerleaders. If Clinton had given this speech, they would be up in arms.

Actually most of are conservatives, not libertarians. While we believe in less government we recognize that there are times when the government, meaning the federal government must act.

I believe that we are "One Nation Under God" not every man for himself. Personally, I would prefer we fund the aid with private contributions but to do that we'd have to fins a hundred million plus Americans to pony up a grand a piece. Now I'm already on board with that but I know there aren't 99,999,999 others who are or will be.

So then the question becomes are we a Nation or are we islands unto our own. The majority will say we are a Nation and we will do what should be done.

And therein lies an opportunity. Yes, the history of such opportunities is dismal but it is an opportunity nonetheless.

Bush can do this. When we help folks build a new home we put hammers in their hands and then bread on their table paid for with sweat. When folks can't put hammers in their hands we put them to work minding the children of those that can and then we put bread on their table. When we rebuild New Orleans, we don't challenge mother nature, we pay her due deference and build on higher ground. We give them a hand and an opportunity at ownership and in return we insist that they leave the old ways behind. We reinforce the lesson that they should have learned, the government can not protect their families, only they can do that. We help our fellow citizens and we point them toward a better way. Family, work, ownership and individual responsibility.

Damn tough job and the devil is in the details and the auditors hands but it is an opportunity nonetheless. I wouldn't bet the homestead on it working out but I would bet a few grand that things will improve somewhat.

1,861 posted on 09/15/2005 7:51:38 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ncpatriot; bitt; Zacs Mom; potlatch; devolve; PhilDragoo; Smartass

Did you see the ABC coverage after the speech? Numerous black evacuees who are staying at the Reliant Center in Houston were interviewed. They had very favorable reactions to the President. Several blamed their problems in N. O. in the first few days on local and state officials.

The ABC interviewer tried everything he could to get the people to trash Bush, but failed. He put the microphone in front of one last woman in a vain attempt to find some Bush criticism. She said she blames Mayor Nagin, who had buses and didn't use them. She also pointed out that there had been money appropriated to shore up the levees, but it was spent on something else.

ABC radio didn't mention these responses, but found a democrat official who said the President's speech was nothing but fluff and contained no specifics. Check out Nightline at 11:30. I hope they use the Houston evacuees again. They were marvelous!


1,862 posted on 09/15/2005 7:51:41 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

It was a tough moment- Greta had on Jesse Jackson- so I went to Joe. I knew he'd gone over the edge- but when I heard him interviewing Dee Dee Myers as though she were a guru I realized he's gone forever. His lead-in to her was " So DeeDee, take us inside the White House in a time of crisis, give us a look..."

As if she would even remotely know what the Bush White House is like.

Amazing.


1,863 posted on 09/15/2005 7:51:50 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Soul Seeker

I thought we had already ended the welfare problem with welfare reform. Supposedly, there was a two year limit for a person to be on welfare. Was the law changed?


1,864 posted on 09/15/2005 7:51:53 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Pukin Dog

Exactly.


1,865 posted on 09/15/2005 7:51:58 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

sure, but there are so many environmental laws on the books - that if ripe for litigation. toxic waste, endagered species in the delta, in the lake, in the river, etc. stopping that would require congress change those laws.


1,866 posted on 09/15/2005 7:51:58 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: F16Fighter
Hadn't they just handed out $2,000 debit cards to thousands of people, only to recognize how dumb it was and withdraw the program? The Bush Administration -- without first considering logistics -- is trying too hard to bendover backwards to "prove" they "care" in the face of criticism from the MSM, Jesse Jackson, and the Dems.

That's nonsense. The Government was trying desperately to help people in an emergency. There wasn't time to have weeks of staff studies to come up with foolproof means of support.

There are hundreds of thousands who were suddenly homeless. This has been inprecedented. Using normal standards of spending and audit in an emergency is just not realistic.

1,868 posted on 09/15/2005 7:52:31 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Roberts = CHIEF; 'Rats = GRIEF)
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To: del4hope

28% on welfare -- down from 60%+ (according to Bill O'reilly). The Majority of people below the poverty level in the USA are white, not black... African Americans have made significant strides.


1,869 posted on 09/15/2005 7:52:42 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: oceanview

70% of the people were living in rental property....Want to guess how many of their rents were paid for through HUD? I'd wager a very larger percentage....

Moon Landrieu has head of HUD during the Carter administration....There are many people in NOLA getting rich on the property they own/rent through HUD.....We've been paying the bills for a LONG time...Rather he give a hand up for home ownership than line the pockets of the corrupt in LA.


1,870 posted on 09/15/2005 7:53:00 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Loon Landrieu & Co good name for a flood control business...Motto:"We got dikes!")
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To: ducks1944
Gov. Haley Barbour was on and made all from Mississippi proud. This is a man who lead this country in 2008. He has been working 24/7 and doing a great job here in Mississippi. Take a look at him.

Yes. He has done very well. I am taking a look at him.

1,871 posted on 09/15/2005 7:53:07 PM PDT by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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To: jwalsh07

Great post


1,872 posted on 09/15/2005 7:53:10 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: msnimje
As Arlen Specter would say, this is a "Super Duper Catastrophe"

Spoken like a true political junkie. Bet you watched 90% of the hearings, just like I did.

:)

1,873 posted on 09/15/2005 7:53:23 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Confirm justice Roberts!)
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To: M. Espinola

You could hear the disappointment in his voice... and you know why his field producer picked the interviewees he did!


1,874 posted on 09/15/2005 7:53:31 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: JeffAtlanta

"Why did these people not have flood insurance?"

I certainly hope that we never have to ask why people in Northridge never had to have earthquake insurance. And certainly that we never have to ask why people in Atlanta did not take advantage of thermonuclear warhead insurance. Think man, think. You can insure anything against a catastrophy.


1,875 posted on 09/15/2005 7:53:37 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Because I can!)
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To: newzjunkey
Mentioned SALVATION ARMY before Red Cross

>Best part of the speech. ;)<

And no mention of the United Way. Very nice, they don't derserve mention- not after the whole Boy Scouts boondoggle a while back.

1,876 posted on 09/15/2005 7:53:50 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: sinkspur; jwalsh07; AntiGuv
Bush delivered a good, and thoughtful and well crafted speech. I appreciated his candor, about the failings of the federal government, and the lack of what is needed. He got the message about having a centralized command, or at least concerted and preplanned effort, with a military component, to move fast. His challenge now is to direct the aid, without that in and of itself becoming a national scandal. That will be a huge and difficult task.

I am very skeptical that handing over federal land (where?) to build homes is practical, or sensible. The lottery seems unworkable too. If Bush wants to subsidize homeowners, the funds should just be appropriated. If the federal land he wants to give up is surplus, just sell it. The Bush idea requires new infrastructure, schools, roads, etc. Unless it is infill land, I doubt that is practical, either in theory or in practice.

But the point Bush made a positive step. Bush may be slow in grasping matters, but in general he has good judgment, given time. That is my initial reaction.

1,877 posted on 09/15/2005 7:53:50 PM PDT by Torie
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To: usmcobra
Do you know how flood insurance works? They pay you and take what's left of your home.

That is how all insurance works. What is your point?

1,878 posted on 09/15/2005 7:53:52 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Alia

Anyone playing could take a drink when Katrina was mentioned....Over 125 times (usually by the Rats) Swimmer said it the most...go figure!


1,879 posted on 09/15/2005 7:54:19 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Loon Landrieu & Co good name for a flood control business...Motto:"We got dikes!")
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To: varina davis

BTW, I thought it was a truly great speech by a truly great (and very smart) President.


1,880 posted on 09/15/2005 7:54:26 PM PDT by varina davis
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