Posted on 09/15/2005 9:28:57 AM PDT by qam1
How, pray tell, are you paying to raise my child?
The taxes you pay, just like the taxes I pay, go for a whole host of things. Your claim makes about as much sense as me claining I'm paying for your commute to work - absolutely none.
I just gave up. It was like arguing with the stupid cat lady that lived around the corner when I was a kid. She hated kids and everyone who had them too. I think they eventually hauled her off to the looney bin.
You are NOT paying for your child's education just because you are paying "a share" of taxes. If your school system spends $17,000/year per student, then you are paying for child only if your share of property taxes and portion of state income taxes that goes to schools, is $17,000+.
And at even a conservative $15,000/year for public schooling a child, someone would have to be making WAY into six figures to actually cover the cost of educating a dozen children. And if they're not paying that much in taxes, then somebody else is supporting their children.
Classifying anything as private property, instead of as community property subject to government control, is hardly socialist.
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Children are not property.
There shouldn't BE a public school system. It's just one more socialist wealth redistribution scheme. What the heck is wrong with expecting people to foot the cost of raising and educating their own children? Grandparents can help too. But people who put their kids in public schools, pay a tiny fraction of those kids' tab in taxes, and then claim to be supporting their own children, are either clueless or lying.
Financially, children are only an asset to today's society after they are grown up and well-educated. That wasn't the case when most people were farmers, and children were put to economically productive work at a very tender age. But now, children are a financial liability to their parents.
I am paying WAY more in taxes than I use in any form of taxpayer funded services. That means I am subsidizing people who are paying less in taxes than they use. If those us who are paying way more than our share suddenly stopped, the net takers would find out fast and hard just how dependent they've been on other people's money.
I like children, and will definitely have them in the future. Can't afford to yet, because I'm paying so much in taxes to support other people's children, and I refuse to dump my children in the government indoctrination centers.
Unfortunately, it is unambiguously almost the worst time by most other important metrics. Our environment is evolving faster than our biology.
The amount of time one has to spend in educational institutions is a problem. It would actually make more sense for young women do college on a slow track while having kids in the meantime. That way they could enter the workforce with the early stage of raising the children completed.
We don't treat them like a liability, they are a liability by any reasonable analysis.
"tortoise said so" is not a reasonable analysis.
The majority of people in college today have no business being there. Likewise, high school is mostly a daycare center for teens.
If you aren't doing calculus by age 14, I see little point in continuing the education sham. Go do something real instead.
I'm about to do the same myself.........it's nearly time to go over homework.
Be that as it may, there is a public school system and it is not a new phenomena.
It's just one more socialist wealth redistribution scheme.
Bravo sierra - some of the ideas being touted in some school systems may be socialist, but that is another issue.
But people who put their kids in public schools, pay a tiny fraction of those kids' tab in taxes, and then claim to be supporting their own children, are either clueless or lying.
Both my husband and I were in our 40s before our daughter began attending a public school. My brother and I each spent 12 years in Catholic schools, even though my parents were paying taxes for public schools. Same with my mother and her sister.
So please don't talk to me about not paying my tab.
As was said in an earlier post - homeschooling is not an option for everyone - and that includes this family. Private school is also out because that would entail my returning to work and having some kind of daycare arrangements for our daughter.......and the nearest one is 45 miles away.
If you are so against public education and the taxes you pay for it - talk your your state legislators, but get off the back of those of us who have made decisions and sacrifices based upon what we believe is best for our children.
So am I. What is your point?
If you aren't doing calculus by age 14, I see little point in continuing the education sham. Go do something real instead.
Having done calculus at 14, I can't protest. Seriously, I agree with you - the idea of university education as a mass product is one of the silliest and costliest 20th century inventions.
You are kidding, aren't you?
There are people that are not very good at mathematics, and have no interest in it, so what is your point? Are you saying those without math aptitude should not have an education?
The part of your post to me I meant to highlight was:
I just gave up.
My apologies.
That is precisely what I was thinking. I believe that Australia must be a generation behind the U.S. I have found that it is the Boomers who rejected family/aborted their babies/and "lived" together without benefit of marriage. The GenXers have seen the sorry results and have opted for family. So sad when people can't realize that not reproducing is the same as signing their death warrant. The population producers rule the world by virtue of numbers. Advice for the future: learn to speak Spanish.
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