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U.S. troops find chemical weapon in Tal Afar stronghold
Stars & Stripes ^ | 15 Sep 05 | Jeff Schogal

Posted on 09/15/2005 8:50:09 AM PDT by xzins

U.S. troops find chemical weapon in Tal Afar stronghold

U.S. commander derides enemy’s ‘unscrupulous’ actions

ARLINGTON, Va. — While taking down the insurgent stronghold of Tal Afar, U.S. troops discovered a crude chemical weapon, the commander of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment said Tuesday.

The troops had just entered a building when their ears and throats started to burn, said Army Col. H.R. McMaster in a briefing to reporters.

U.S. forces determined insurgents had rigged the chemicals to explosives, McMaster said, though he did not identify the type of chemical.

“We evacuated the civilians from the area and we demolished that building without a hazard to the people,” McMaster said.

He said several families were living near the building, suggesting insurgents intended to detonate the chemical weapon to harm them and blame it on coalition forces, he said.

McMaster hailed operations in Tal Afar as a major success against an “unscrupulous” enemy.

“They are some of the worst human beings on the face of the Earth, and there is no real greater pleasure for us than to kill or capture these individuals,” he said.

In recent operations in the Tal Afar area, U.S. forces killed and captured hundreds of terrorists who had taken over the city and ruled by terror, McMaster said.

McMaster called the insurgents “unscrupulous.” In one incident, insurgents killed a boy and then put a bomb inside his body and detonated it when his parents came along, he said.

Tal Afar’s residents recognized the insurgents for the thugs they are and provided U.S. and Iraqi forces with critical intelligence, McMaster said.

“The people are sick and tired of this violence, of this enemy, and they are very grateful for our efforts and the Iraqi efforts particularly to rid them of this enemy,” he said.

Another element in the successful operation was the Iraqi security forces, which served as a capable backup for U.S. troops, McMaster said.

“These Iraqi soldiers are brave, they’re courageous, they’re building capabilities every day and we are drawing strength from their example,” he said.

Still, the Iraqi security forces are not yet able to conduct operations on their own, and coalition forces do not have enough troops to secure Tal Afar, McMaster said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chemical; chemicalweapons; insurgency; iraq; oif; talafar; weapon; wmd
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1 posted on 09/15/2005 8:50:20 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

Knock me over with a feather...


2 posted on 09/15/2005 8:52:23 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Because I can!)
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To: xzins
BUSH LIED!!!

He said that they hadn't found any WMDs. Or he maybe said something else but whatever he said

IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!

3 posted on 09/15/2005 8:54:41 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: xzins
“They are some of the worst human beings on the face of the Earth, and there is no real greater pleasure for us than to kill or capture these individuals,”

Bears repeating.....

4 posted on 09/15/2005 8:55:42 AM PDT by EggsAckley ("The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handle")
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He said several families were living near the building, suggesting insurgents intended to detonate the chemical weapon to harm them and blame it on coalition forces, he said

Interesting, I remember a news article sveral days ago about the bad guys claiming the US is using chemical weapons against them. Could they be related?

5 posted on 09/15/2005 8:56:40 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
U.S. forces determined insurgents had rigged the chemicals to explosives, McMaster said, though he did not identify the type of chemical.

Chemical agent, chemical dirty bombs, chemical weapon: lots of different names for what was in this stronghold in Tal Afar.

Just remember, THEY'RE NOT WMDs!

6 posted on 09/15/2005 8:56:41 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: xzins
Tal Afar’s residents recognized the insurgents for the thugs they are and provided U.S. and Iraqi forces with critical intelligence,

Michael Moore...Eat your Beer Gut out!

7 posted on 09/15/2005 8:57:29 AM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush)
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To: cgk

In one incident, insurgents killed a boy and then put a bomb inside his body and detonated it when his parents came along, he said.

I cannot even comprehend the evil in this act.... how does a parent recover?


8 posted on 09/15/2005 8:57:50 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: cgk

So why build a "crude chemical weapon" if Saddam had tons of sophisticated ones?

And people really need to get over the mystical significance of the letters "WMD."

Why is a chemical that causes your throat to burn a "WMD" and two pounds of plastic explosive not a "WMD?"


9 posted on 09/15/2005 8:58:55 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: EggsAckley

I think Col. H.R. McMaster just blew his chances for holding any office in the ACLU. I'm sure he feels bad about that.


10 posted on 09/15/2005 8:59:24 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: xzins
“They are some of the worst human beings on the face of the Earth, and there is no real greater pleasure for us than to kill or capture these individuals.”

Awesome, someone who isn't afraid of PC Bul***it. If more of our leaders listened to this guy instead of being scared of the Libs, we'd be out of Iraq in a week.

11 posted on 09/15/2005 9:00:04 AM PDT by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter (I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: Strategerist

Do you think they would call a giant bomb made of Drano and acid a WMD if it killed 3000 people?


12 posted on 09/15/2005 9:00:38 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: Turbo Pig

I remember that accusation, and note this is Syria's back door where "crude" attempts are the method used to kill with WMD's.

Wonder if Syria is the controller of those WMD's that the whole world believed old Saddam had?


13 posted on 09/15/2005 9:01:14 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Strategerist

This was a chemical weapon.

Since we don't know the chemical, we don't know the intent of the terrorists. It might have been an absolutely lethal intent but they got the formula wrong or the mixing system wrong or the explosive delivery system wrong.


14 posted on 09/15/2005 9:01:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

At least this is from Stars and Stripes.


15 posted on 09/15/2005 9:02:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Blue Turtle

It sounds as if they didn't have long to recover, if I am reading that correctly, I assume they were killed as well. :( At least they are with their son again.


16 posted on 09/15/2005 9:02:32 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: xzins; Straight Vermonter; Grampa Dave; Coop; Cap Huff

Good news bump.

Glad we found it before it was triggered.


17 posted on 09/15/2005 9:03:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: cripplecreek

Yep. When Stars & Stripes quotes an Armored Cav Regimental Commander (Colonel), you can pretty well bet that it is real and the quote is correct.


18 posted on 09/15/2005 9:04:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Blue Turtle

They used the explosive laden child to kill the parents...the childs body exploded.


19 posted on 09/15/2005 9:04:17 AM PDT by Dog ( We haven't forgotten you Commander Michael Speicher)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I agree. See #14.

I hope they release info on the chemical.

But it might assist the enemy if they do give the chemical name(s) and then explain the enemy's mistakes in detonating the weapon.


20 posted on 09/15/2005 9:06:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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