Posted on 09/15/2005 7:03:21 AM PDT by groanup
KEY QUESTION: Tell me how we won't be stuck with ANOTHER tax system.
I am in favor of a Dick Armey-style flat tax, (reform of the current income tax). If we can't get even that passed, all of this fair tax theory is just silly.
Inclusive/Exclusive argument again? Aren't you getting tired of having your butt handed to you every time you try that bait-n-switch?
No my facts are rock solid and undeniable. BTW, go visit the fairtax FAQ, they admit the fairtax is a progressive tax scheme too.
You mean this? If that is the best you've got, stick to building houses and leave tax schemes to ANYone else.
Come on, even the "Fair Tax" proponents gave up on that lie long ago.
Honestly now, Do you really believe that??
What anyone thinks is not important and from your ping list I can see that you are one of the economically challenged Freepers.
The market will determine what the corporations do with the money. They may even outsource it by sending it to China. That ought to thrill you because you don't understand the economics of that either.
Pull my other leg.
Consider that the alternative is to continue on as we have. Even a Flat Tax leaves the very same system in place that got us where we are today. It will eventually bring us right back to the screwed up system we have now.
Only by gutting the beast can we get enough people aware of how bad the current system is to get some real change going. Remember that part of the NRST is that "in your face" sales receipt to remind every single consumer of the cost of government. Right now, most people don't see what is withheld so never miss it.
ROTFLOL.....MY BAIT AND SWITCH???????? 99.999999% of the universe understand sales tax as they way I quote the rate. You phoneys are the ones who con-cocked the 'inclusive' rate to mislead the people on what your sales tax really is. It is a 30% sales tax on all goods and services. If you call it a 23% sales tax on all goods and services, you are lying. You must state it as a '23% inclusive sales tax in all goods and services' to be accurate.
I sense sarcasm, but do you really think you can buy rock cocaine at Wal-Mart? Transactions in the underground economy can't be captured by a sales tax.
It works the same way as it does today. When the crook spends money in the legal economy, that money flows through and pays the embedded taxes. Until the fair tax figures out a way to collect on the services of the prositute, then they are still cheating the system. The tax base for the fairtax does not include the illegal economy. It does not add to or subtract from the tax base, just like today.
How many people have you ridiculed when they tried to tell you the truth?
Tell us some truth that is anti-Fair Tax. As an aside, a phony should learn how o spell it.
The government, under a 'fair tax', will keep records on ALL transactions.
In your attempt to 'gut the beast', you have just created a bigger monster.
If you don't like the rate, help reign in GOP spending and we can work on 'em to give us a tax cut. All of us. Not just a few or "targeted" tax cuts. One rate. Adjust it.
Furthermore, the government will continue to keep records on income in order to determine Social Security benefits. The government gets more records under a sales tax than it would under an income tax.
But,guess what, if Joe's car needs repair unexpectedly he can defer paying taxes for a month or more. He can buy used and he will be getting his pre-bate for necessities.Buy used what? Used car repair service? Used car parts?
Exactly.
Right now there are seven pieces of information that is required on every sales tax receipt under their plan. It is only a matter of time when compliance becomes a problem, when information on who the buyer is will be required on every receipt. That is the only way sales tax can be tracked.
A pretty massive difference especially considering that latter is still annymous from the consumers standpoint. Retailer are already audited up the ying-yang now. The reporting and complaince mechanisms for collecting sales tax are already in place.
I gather you "think" that when a prostitute buys drugs, the drug dealer will collect the "fair tax" and send that money to the government.
LOL!
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