Posted on 09/14/2005 4:38:45 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
That's clearly a typo. Lighten up.
"Stupidity, because we have no rational reason to kill people we could as well put behind bars as long as necessary"
What, so they can brutalize and murder other prisoners? Some 18 year old kid gets a year in prison for something relatively minor, and pays for it with at least his dignity (being forced to become someone's catamite) and possibly his life? Where's your compassion for the people you want to lock into steel cages with these murderers?
Besides, the death penalty illustrates the gravity of the crime. As Rooster Cogburn said, "It'll give'em to know we're serious."
"Waste, because even the most sorry and lacking attempt to make sure we don't err in killing people results in that absurdous pomposity called death penalty process right now - it's waaay cheaper to just keep people in prison,"
The solution to that is to fix the process, not abandon the goal.
"And worst of all, hybris. Because basically, we play God here."
That ain't what the Bible says.
"Killing brings out all the worst instincts in us"
What's this "us" crap, you got a mouse in your pocket? You don't know how killing affects other individuals, much less society at large.
"and with each such act that is done in our name we lose a little of our humanity, of our kindness and our grace."
Nonsense.
"Count me in as a convinced Catholic on this...."
No, I'm going to count you as a confused Catholic who needs to rethink.
[playing God] That ain't what the Bible says.That is what the bible says.
In spite of the apparent evidence, I have some unanswered questions about this case based on what I've read. I hope they did indeed execute a guilty woman.
No, I'm going to count you as a confused Catholic who needs to rethink.Well, thankyou, my priest, my bishop and my Pope agree with me on this, so either your perception of Catholic teaching is a little confused - or utterly mistaken.
She was innocent. This is so sad. This is a tragedy. This just gives the liberal loons more evidence against the death penalty.
On the other hand, the Good Thief acknowledged that he must pay for his crimes, and Christ commended him (but didn't let him off his temporal punishment).
Christ said, "You would have no authority over me, unless it had been given you from above."
Also St. Paul: "But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it [the temporal authority] does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil."
Source? From what the DA says, they had her dead to rights. Motive, opportunity, murder weapon, witness to attempt to conceal.
You shoulda heard Sheila Jackson Lee going on about this yesterday. She practically predicted riots.
2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.The DP is an extreme penalty for use in extreme circumstances. Killing your husband and two babies for the insurance money strikes me as an extreme circumstance. And imprisoning a stone cold killer who cheerfully murdered her own family for money puts other prisoners and corrections personnel at risk. There is risk of additional harm to others even in the case of a life sentence with no parole (which apparently was not available at the time).If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.
Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically nonexistent."
So prudential considerations may well require that this person be executed to prevent her from harming others in the course of imprisonment.
yup , confuseae flummoxitus
Cry me a river... NOT.
yup , hey Publius6961 ,... confuseae flummoxitus
Whenever I see articles on Texas executions, I always think of that Ron White bit that goes something like 'Alot of states are getting rid of the death penalty, in Texas we are putting in an express lane.'
Then again, there was that bonfire...
Not funny at all.
Execution is the only way to protect society from a murderer becoming a repeat offender.
What a chilling thought. Of course, there are people like this already roaming our streets. I'd feel much more comfortable if they had been executed.
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