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To: Praxeus

"Like, for instance, saying the Kairites and the Rabbinicals are all the same... Jews... right?"

I don't know of any wars between Rabbinical and Karaite Jews, such as the wars between Protestants and Catholics. Karaites follow only the Tanach, while Rabbinical Jews also follow the oral traditions.

"Not all Xtians persecuted, and not all Xtians hold to 'Replacement Theology'."

I think that all Christians follow some sort of replacement theology, though not all to it's logical extreme, agreed.

For example, Christians universally believe that the promised Mosiach has already arrived. They celebrate the Sabbath on Sunday. They don't follow the dietary laws. This is all because of writings in the gospel such as (the ones that come to mind immediately) Paul and Luke and also the book Corinthians which purport to supercede the Mosaic law. Even the words used, "New Testament" vs "Old Testament" are easily interpreted as implying obsolescence.


29 posted on 09/14/2005 1:26:52 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az
"I don't know of any wars between Rabbinical and Karaite Jews"

Lol.. well, not yet any way. If there was, it would be between the Secularists and the Haredi. Definitely was between the Northern Kingdom and the Southern Kingdom, since we are dipping in to history.

"I think that all Christians follow some sort of replacement theology, though not all to it's logical extreme, agreed."

Well, there are actually some who believe the Jews are parallel in God's plan of redemption.. that God is dealing with both independently. Not mainstream in any sense, as far as Xtianity goes, but it's there.

"Christians universally believe that the promised Mosiach has already arrived"

Point given.

"They celebrate the Sabbath on Sunday. They don't follow the dietary laws"

Seventh-Day Adventists.. and lots of Jews do not keep Kashrut.

As for the rest.. yes, Xtianity supposes superceding covenents. But it is not necessarily an adversarial doctrinal promotion any more than that of Abraham's to Moses'.

Concerning OT vs NT.. it should be noted that the writers of the NT never referred to the Torah as "OT". They uniformly call it the "Scriptures".

When talking of Xtianity being divided between Protestant and Catholic. I submit their difference is insignificant. In fact, Protestant's are Catholics who are "protesting" Rome's authority. Since Protestants hold to the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity, they are what they believe.

Their are many sects of Xtianity that do not subscribe to the Trinity doctrine. Certainly, Xtianity of the first two centuries did not, and the Trinitarian doctrine of 3rd century Xtians would not be recognizable to those today.
30 posted on 09/14/2005 1:54:32 PM PDT by Praxeus
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To: adam_az
I think that all Christians follow some sort of replacement theology, though not all to it's logical extreme, agreed.

No, there is a significant group of Christians that do not hold to Replacement Theology (i.e. Supercessionism). The vast majority of Evangelicals (i.e. conservative protestants) hold to what is called "Dispensational Theology" which does NOT believe in the replacement of Israel. That is why that group is so Israel-friendly.

There are smaller groups that do not hold to dispensationalism or supercessionism. If you were to do a population division it is probably 60/40 dispensationalist/supercessionist.
45 posted on 09/14/2005 5:06:47 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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