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Dutch to Open Electronic Files on Children
AP ^ | 14 Sept 2005

Posted on 09/14/2005 8:35:10 AM PDT by Grig

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - The Dutch government plans to open an electronic file on every child at birth as a tool to spot and protect the troubled kids of the future.

Beginning Jan. 1, 2007, all citizens will be tracked from cradle to grave in a single database — including health, education, family and police records — the health ministry said Tuesday.

As a privacy safeguard, no single person or agency will be able to access all contents of a file. But organizations can raise "red flags" in the dossier to caution other agencies about problems, ministry spokesman Jan Brouwer said.

The intention is to protect troubled children, Brouwer said. Until now, schools and police have been unable to communicate with each other about truancy records and criminality, which are often linked.

"Child protection services will say, 'Hey, there's a warning flag from the police. There's another one from school. There's another one from the doctor," Brouwer said. "Something must be going on and it's time to call the parents in for a meeting."

Every child will get a Citizens Service Number, making it easier to keep track of children with problems even when their families move, said Secretary of Health Clemence Ross.

"Safety, guidance, education and supervision are incredibly important for the development of children," Ross said.

All Dutch births are currently registered with local authorities.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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Big Brother is going to do a whole lot more than just watch you. And if the intention is to protect children, why do they need to track you all your life?

I bet it will cost 10 times what they project, and saying that nobody will have access to a person's full file is bunk. I'm sure that sys admins for it will be able to crusie around the files at will. Might be able to set up a nice little black market deal selling info from it too.

1 posted on 09/14/2005 8:35:11 AM PDT by Grig
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That, is just plain scary. When I think of the stuff I pulled in high school with my friend, Ruth, wow...

We found out that if you smoke in the snack room that you are supposed to be cleaning, don't throw that cigarette in the trash can and sit on it when a nun stops to engage you in conversation...

But,

The city still hasn't corrected my address after 20 years of trying. It is still the vacant lot across the street. I think data will eventually overwhelm the sheepherders.


2 posted on 09/14/2005 8:38:36 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Grig

"Big Brother is going to do a whole lot more than just watch you."

Orwell was a prophet.


3 posted on 09/14/2005 8:40:03 AM PDT by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: Grig

If they REALLY cared about the children, they'd collect them at birth and put them in state-run centers. That'll keep'em safe.( /Brave New World.)


4 posted on 09/14/2005 8:41:05 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Nuthin' ain't worth nuthin', but it's free.")
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To: LongElegantLegs

Don't give them any ideas or encouragement.


5 posted on 09/14/2005 8:43:43 AM PDT by Grig
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If they were interested in protecting children they would crack down on their country;s rampant sex-perversion and pedophilia.
6 posted on 09/14/2005 8:45:35 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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"Every child will get a Citizens Service Number,"

Over hear it's called a 'social security number'.


7 posted on 09/14/2005 8:47:25 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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When the U.S. started the Social Security program, they said our SSN would never be used for purposes of identification.


8 posted on 09/14/2005 8:48:02 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: ElkGroveDan

The Dutch should pay attention to what is going on in Aruba with the missing American college student and stop this socialist foolishness. Letting the only suspect leave the island and go to Holland to attend college is a major slap in the face of that poor girl's family and her country (USA).


9 posted on 09/14/2005 8:49:07 AM PDT by wmileo
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But organizations can raise "red flags" in the dossier to caution other agencies about problems, ...

Like, she's as Freeper; keep an eye on her."

10 posted on 09/14/2005 8:50:41 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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"When the U.S. started the Social Security program, they said our SSN would never be used for purposes of identification."

And yet everywhere you go, it's REQUIRED, for things such as a drivers license, bank loans, job applications, etc.

What a surprise! NOT!


11 posted on 09/14/2005 8:52:19 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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12 posted on 09/14/2005 8:52:22 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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I think data will eventually overwhelm the sheepherders.

No. they'll just create another government agency to handle it.

13 posted on 09/14/2005 8:52:34 AM PDT by BostonianRightist (Well, boys, I reckon this is it - nuclear combat toe to toe with the Roosskies.)
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It's gonna happen here too. Just wait and see.

14 posted on 09/14/2005 8:55:36 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Birthdays start out being fun. But too many of them will kill you..)
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I bet it will cost 10 times what they project, and saying that nobody will have access to a person's full file is bunk.

I think your cost factor is way low. The Canadian Gun Registry is a case in point. The costs to maintain a simple database tracking the ownership of an object are way beyond what was reasonable to expect.

Imagine all the things the Dutch government might like to track? Imagine having to add a category for something after-the-fact like a childhood disease or a new innoculation? What are you going to do, go back and gather data on ALL the children previously entered into the system? What would that cost? The cost & effort would approach that of taking a national census -- AND it would be ongoing.

15 posted on 09/14/2005 8:56:01 AM PDT by Tallguy
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Over hear it's called a 'social security number'.

Slave Surveillance Number

16 posted on 09/14/2005 8:56:37 AM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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"Safety, guidance, education and continual government supervision are incredibly important for the development of children implementation of an all intrusive government," Ross said.
17 posted on 09/14/2005 9:02:59 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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"Orwell was a prophet."

Um, I think something like this was predicted by a prophet long before Orwell.
18 posted on 09/14/2005 9:04:45 AM PDT by BradMorris64
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To: Grig

They seem to be doing just fine on their own, anyway...


19 posted on 09/14/2005 9:09:21 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Nuthin' ain't worth nuthin', but it's free.")
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"When the U.S. started the Social Security program, they said our SSN would never be used for purposes of identification."

The first sets of cards specifically stated as much.
20 posted on 09/14/2005 9:30:34 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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