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Red Cross Nations Seek Emblem Resolution [Israel's Red Star of David]
AP ^ | Sept. 13, 2005 | Uta Harnischfeger

Posted on 09/13/2005 11:03:35 AM PDT by Alouette

GENEVA - Member countries of the international Red Cross movement met on Monday to investigate whether they can revive an effort to give Israel full status five years after the last attempt failed because of Arab-Israeli tension.

The disagreement centers around whether a red Star of David can join the emblems of the red cross and red crescent to identify ambulances, medical workers and others on humanitarian missions.

Israel, which cooperates with the movement, has been denied full membership over the emblem issue for 57 years.

"Members are holding informal discussions on whether or not to convene a diplomatic conference," said Raphael Saborit, a spokesman for the Swiss foreign ministry.

Delegates from 123 countries and several international organizations are meeting for two days behind closed doors to determine whether a consensus would support calling the formal meeting.

The preliminary meeting was called by Switzerland, which is the depository country of the Geneva Conventions on warfare that lays the ground rules for the Red Cross movement.

Switzerland decided earlier this year to revive the process because of favorable "political and diplomatic circumstances," Saborit said.

Switzerland canceled the previous conference, which had been scheduled for October 2000, because of the outbreak of the second Palestinian intifada against Israel.

The latest proposal envisions what its proponents call a red crystal — a square standing on one corner, with a blank white interior and a thick red border. Magen David Adom, or MDA, the Israeli society, would be allowed to put its Red Star of David in the center but the Israeli military would not be able to use the combined symbol in an armed conflict to protect its medics.

Once the diplomatic conference agrees to an additional symbol and two member countries ratify it, all members of the Red Cross and Red Crescent movement would be free to chose one of the three symbols.

The American Red Cross has been campaigning for full Israeli membership for years. It has withheld six years' of payment owed to the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies — totaling approximately $34 million — since May 2000 to protest the MDA's not being admitted.

The red cross emblem was first adopted in 1863, when Swiss humanitarians founded the movement to care for war victims. It simply reverses the colors of the neutral Swiss flag, without any religious intent.

But Muslims, reminded of the crusader's cross from centuries earlier, refused to use the emblem. Instead, the Ottoman empire was already using the red crescent to protect its medical workers in the 19th century.

The red crescent, along with the Red Lion and Sun of Iran, was enshrined with the red cross in the Geneva conventions of 1929. __

Associated Press writer Alexander G. Higgins contributed to this story.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; magendavidadom; redcrescent; redcross; redlion; trop
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So, the Red Crescent is allowed so the Muslims won't be offended, and the Red Magen David is not allowed so the Muslims won't be offended.

Oh, and the Red Crescent is allowed to transport weapons and suicide bombers in its ambulances through checkpoints without being searched, so the Muslims won't be offended.

I'm offended...but I'm not a Muslim.

1 posted on 09/13/2005 11:03:37 AM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 09/13/2005 11:05:24 AM PDT by SJackson (“I worry that I've seen this movie before”, Rep. Mark Kirk on aid to palestinians.)
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"So, the Red Crescent is allowed so the Muslims won't be offended, and the Red Magen David is not allowed so the Muslims won't be offended. "

Apparently so.

We are living in the age of insanity.

3 posted on 09/13/2005 11:06:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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4 posted on 09/13/2005 11:08:09 AM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: Alouette

I speculate that the islamic arabs will never let Israel join the Red Cross just like the islamic countries can't define "terrorism". Beyond their collective comprehension.


5 posted on 09/13/2005 11:09:45 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Alouette

I've got a better idea:  Why don't we figure out a way to get the U.S. out of the Red Cross?  Then the U.S. and Israel could stand together, united against this despicable, corrupt organization.  Let them solicit money for disasters only to funnel the money into a needle exchange program under someone else's name.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

6 posted on 09/13/2005 11:10:03 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: BenLurkin

Its the Age of Clinton.


7 posted on 09/13/2005 11:10:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Alouette

8 posted on 09/13/2005 11:11:18 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (It would be "quintessentially American" to rebuild the World Trade Center towers in New Orleans.)
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To: Alouette
So, the Red Crescent is allowed so the Muslims won't be offended, and the Red Magen David is not allowed so the Muslims won't be offended.

Oh, and the Red Crescent is allowed to transport weapons and suicide bombers in its ambulances through checkpoints without being searched, so the Muslims won't be offended.

I'm offended...but I'm not a Muslim

Bears repeating BUMP

I'm sick of anti-Semitism being masqueraded as "tolorance"

9 posted on 09/13/2005 11:17:55 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them All and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Alouette

Sounds like they should adopt a red dot with a circle around it.


10 posted on 09/13/2005 11:21:03 AM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: George Smiley

Your screen name just suggested: how about a red happy face?


11 posted on 09/13/2005 11:22:16 AM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

What is the significance of that bit of Arabic(?) script (second from right) and the ship's wheel (far right)?


12 posted on 09/13/2005 11:22:26 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Alouette

You need a diplomatic conference to decide on an emblem.

And there you have crystallized so much of what is the fundamental problem with global organizations.


13 posted on 09/13/2005 11:24:53 AM PDT by steveyp
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"I'm offended...but I'm not a Muslim."

Doesn't count. You must claim your "offended islamite" title to be recognized.

14 posted on 09/13/2005 11:24:54 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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What is the significance of that bit of Arabic(?) script (second from right) and the ship's wheel (far right)?

Those are Hindu symbols.

15 posted on 09/13/2005 11:25:14 AM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: ArrogantBustard

"What is the significance of that bit of Arabic(?) script (second from right) and the ship's wheel (far right)?"

It's not - it's the Buddhist/Hindu OM symbol


16 posted on 09/13/2005 11:27:36 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Alouette
The red cross emblem was first adopted in 1863, when Swiss humanitarians founded the movement to care for war victims. It simply reverses the colors of the neutral Swiss flag, without any religious intent

Except for the Muslims who started the Red Crescent society in 1863 along with it.

17 posted on 09/13/2005 11:27:37 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: cake_crumb
Red "Crescent of Embrace" chosen for Flight 93 Memorial
18 posted on 09/13/2005 11:30:37 AM PDT by TaxRelief (follow the money...)
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Next:

Note, this isn't a satanic symbol, which would be this upside-down. My point is that now every religion is going to want its own symbol as part of the Red Cross, and where will that end?

19 posted on 09/13/2005 11:33:19 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: TaxRelief

It adds insult to injury. Those two left coast "designers" are probably antiwar protestors.


20 posted on 09/13/2005 11:50:50 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them All and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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