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Disaster official at NY symposium: Planners didn't anticipate gun problem after Katrina
AP/Newsday ^ | 9/12/05 | DAVID B. CARUSO

Posted on 09/13/2005 10:39:24 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

Disaster official at NY symposium: Planners didn't anticipate gun problem after Katrina

By DAVID B. CARUSO Associated Press Writer

September 12, 2005, 4:45 PM EDT

NEW YORK -- Emergency officials who prepared Louisiana's plan for responding to a major hurricane never guessed that one of their duties would be to protect aid workers from gunmen, one of the state's senior disaster officials said Monday.

Speaking at a symposium in New York, Arthur Jones, chief of disaster recovery for Louisiana's Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness, said he was caught off guard by the violence in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina.

No disaster planner, he said, predicted that people would loot gun stores after the storm and shoot at police, rescue officials and helicopters.

Jones said the flow of aid to the city was delayed because officials were not able to guarantee the safety of American Red Cross workers and other volunteers.

"That's never been in any plan," Jones said in an interview following his speech to the emergency response officials at the symposium. "Unfortunately, in the future, it will have a place at the table."

Jones took time off from his disaster recovery duties Monday to participate in the symposium on emergency preparedness sponsored by New York Downtown Hospital. The event was planned months before Katrina hit.

Jones initially was scheduled to lecture on lessons learned by studying a simulated storm, dubbed Hurricane Pam. The analysis of the fictitious storm was still under way when Katrina struck the Gulf Coast.

The projections from the simulated hurricane proved strikingly accurate, Jones said. Planners had anticipated that the storm would cause a catastrophic flood that would leave much of southeast Louisiana uninhabitable for months.

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1 posted on 09/13/2005 10:39:25 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim
Speaking at a symposium in New York, Arthur Jones, chief of disaster recovery for Louisiana's Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness, said he was caught off guard by the violence in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina.

What I want to know is why the hell this idiot is up in New York instead of DOWN IN LOUISIANA DEALING WITH THIS DISASTER?

But, then again, having one less state pinhead in the way probably speeds the flow of relief.

2 posted on 09/13/2005 10:40:39 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: kiriath_jearim

It was not a GUN problem. It was a PEOPLE probelm.


3 posted on 09/13/2005 10:42:33 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: dirtboy

maybe he moved to ny like mayor nagin moved to dallas


4 posted on 09/13/2005 10:42:46 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: kiriath_jearim
When you are ignoring the plans that do exist, what does it matter if reality isn't accurately reflected in those plans? Don't bother wasting the time planning; you'll just pretend they don't exist anyway.
5 posted on 09/13/2005 10:42:53 AM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: Calpernia

FYI


6 posted on 09/13/2005 10:44:05 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: kiriath_jearim

Obviously the gun problems were Bush's fault.


7 posted on 09/13/2005 11:00:00 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: kiriath_jearim
No disaster planner, he said, predicted that people would loot gun stores after the storm and shoot at police

OK. Gangs didn't have guns before the hurricane. Sure.

8 posted on 09/13/2005 11:02:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
The projections from the simulated hurricane proved strikingly accurate....."

Buy the computer simulator with the money saved by firing this highly paid disaster "chief" who did nothing with the results.

9 posted on 09/13/2005 11:02:09 AM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("A Liberal with a cause is far more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude." - - Unknown)
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To: kiriath_jearim
... caught off guard by the violence in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina.

There must be a brain-sucking parasite problem in Louisiana. What do these people think about all day?

10 posted on 09/13/2005 11:13:21 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: kiriath_jearim
"No disaster planner, he said, predicted that people would loot gun stores after the storm and shoot at police, rescue officials and helicopters. "

Better start.

America is now suffering from the full bloom of liberal idiocy and will continue to suffer until something drastic happens.

11 posted on 09/13/2005 11:14:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: kiriath_jearim

"That's never been in any plan," = "My dog musta ate that page"


12 posted on 09/13/2005 11:30:31 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: kiriath_jearim

When LBJ gave use the welfare state, many people predicted just this. Now that it's (inevitably) come true, many people suddenly have amnesia.


13 posted on 09/13/2005 11:42:28 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

and the welfare class continues to grow.


14 posted on 09/13/2005 11:57:31 AM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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To: kiriath_jearim

He is up there speaking in New York because he no longer has a job in New Orleans. The City is bankrupt, the State is near insolvency, and he failed to plan.

At a minimum they should have asked the retailers to take their weapons and ammo with them when they closed for business...but their police department was too busy fleeing from the City.


15 posted on 09/13/2005 11:59:44 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: kiriath_jearim
Arthur Jones, chief of disaster recovery for Louisiana's Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness, said he was caught off guard by the violence in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina.

Then he's and idiot and should be fired, or at least moved to a nice office where he can't hurt anyone.. else.

16 posted on 09/14/2005 1:18:13 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: 3AngelaD
Obviously the gun problems were Bush's fault.

Of course, if he hadn't vetoed the renewal of the Assault Weapons Ban... oh wait, he never got a chance to veto it, it failed to pass in Congress. Wonder how many lives that little lack of action *saved* in NOLA?

BTW, there weren't any gun problems, other than the ones involving the police and National Guard confiscating them from peaceable folks. There was a thug problem, a gangster problem, but not a "gun" problem.

17 posted on 09/14/2005 1:25:13 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
I take it back, there was a "gun" problem, as in "This is my rifle, this is my gun ...". Several instances in fact, in the Superdome alone, undoubtedly more in the Convention Center and elsewhere.
18 posted on 09/14/2005 1:26:53 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: BurbankKarl
At a minimum they should have asked the retailers to take their weapons and ammo with them when they closed for business...

I'm not sure the guns and ammo would be more secure in the back of a U-Haul than in a vault or safe, which is where every gun dealer I know about that doesn't have an on-site guard, and some that do, keeps their firearms during non business hours. We're not talking the little home safes most are familiar with, but room sized affairs, or at least a large closet size. Short of a few hours with a torch, the thugs weren't getting into those. The "worse" the area of town a gun store is located in, the more massive their safe tends (and needs) to be. It's much easier, although more risky, to rob a gun store during business hours. Wal Mart might be an exception, but the average store, if it has guns at all, probably has no more than 50 or so on hand. Most of those will be .22 rifles or bird guns. Wally World doesn't carry handguns, nor UBG's.

19 posted on 09/14/2005 1:35:45 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: BurbankKarl
At a minimum they should have asked the retailers to take their weapons and ammo with them when they closed for business...

I'm not sure the guns and ammo would be more secure in the back of a U-Haul than in a vault or safe, which is where every gun dealer I know about that doesn't have an on-site guard, and some that do, keeps their firearms during non business hours. We're not talking the little home safes most are familiar with, but room sized affairs, or at least a large closet size. Short of a few hours with a torch, the thugs weren't getting into those. The "worse" the area of town a gun store is located in, the more massive their safe tends (and needs) to be. It's much easier, although more risky, to rob a gun store during business hours. Wal Mart might be an exception, but the average store, if it has guns at all, probably has no more than 50 or so on hand. Most of those will be .22 rifles or bird guns. Wally World doesn't carry handguns, nor UBG's.

20 posted on 09/14/2005 1:35:55 PM PDT by El Gato
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